We have so many real problems and illegal behavior currently ongoing to be wasting so much time on this, He is Dead. Trump is in office, new people in charge with REAL issues that need fixing. I'm sure both Bongino & Patel knew a lot of this was going on but never dreamed of the extent till got in there. They didn't want to believe the #1 LE agency was in such bad shape. Old timers had been leaving, replaced with all college educated (Danger Will Robinson) and remember the 302's of interviews were not video taped until very recently so many of them, especially read later, can be useless or even misleading as only agents recollections of interview written down afterwards. There are still some great agents working for right reasons but many for many reasons are not. At this point they are probably trying to fix issues, change procedures, retrain, remove those they can't and energize the agency like Hegspeth doing with Military before all confidence is gone. We need to move on, ICE in particular needs our support, this Epstien mess is no longer about "we are being lied to" they looked and at this point any evidence is long gone anyway so it is collossal waste of time and energy! Have we gotten so invested with Conspiracies that we believe everything out there instead of more likely reasons. Staff that were partisans plus those who ignored/lost/misplaced, mislead or interpreted add lazy or incompentant ones who don't follow up or that toady up for raises, better assignments, promotions, or went along to keep jobs? Really was he dumb enough to keep a list etc. why risk having tons of "patrons" when safer with small core group. He did need people as cover and loved attention from high profile people. (Trump would be cover if you pay any attention to his patterns.) Let's fix what can be fixed! Bondi caught between, Trump, MAGA, Conspiracy believers and failed to thread needle but I'm fine as was No-Win for her.
Lie vs miscommunication Erick - are you absolutely sure you know that she *intentionally* misled the public when she said "It's on my desk to review"? As an attorney yourself, you know you would always have the entire case file to review, not just one piece of paper taken from the file.
I love you brother but you need to retract this statement. It is indefensible.
This is all such a deplorable mess. And focusing on who said what and which names are obviously being protected takes away from the true tragedy of stealing the innocence of our young girls. Add that to the disaster of dozens of sweet girls swept away and now we have something that demands our full attention. This. Not that. This.
Conspiracy - "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful". I guess one could also disagree if something was a conspiracy or not based on the amount of intelligent thought that went into the "conspiracy" and the status of those "conspiring". The Fulton County school test score improvement wasn't a conspiracy according to almost all media outlets and politicians at the time until it was a proven conspiracy. Are the following conspiracies? - Howard Gebler and the Kennedy assassination (a new old one), J6, vaccines are not harmful, Covid vaccines are not harmful, climate change, the 2020 Presidential vote count, the 1960 Presidential vote count, Volkswagen emissions testing, we will balance the budget, and on and on and on. The definition of conspiracy should be amended to read "a secret plan, or a plan so obfuscated by lies and half-truths it seems unintelligible, carried out by a group, organized or not, to do something unlawful, or harmful or something for the greater good".
I'm throwing the BS flag on this. First, Erick you are recycling your jokes. You used the same bit about the release of the JFK files. Second, fire Bondi because of this nonsense? The clip you showed could easily be her acknowledging that the Epstein files were on her desk - not his supposed list. The interviewer further asked if there was anything that would cause her to say, "Oh my gosh!" And she said no. There was no bombshell, and she said no.
I'm surprised not one person who wrote back said something to point out the 'missing' one minute of film from the cameras outside Epstein's prison cell. I'm seeing that online, too. More conspiracy?
Sorry. I find this,ludicrous. Can’t believe how disappointed I am I. You for this post. This is the first administration that has been truthful and honest in years. Pam Bondi is the best AG we have had in decades. To fire her over this mistake is ridiculous. Did she lie? I don’t think so. Was she overzealous in what she believed? Most likely.
We need to quit trying to sabotage the Trump Administration. We have enough federal judges overstepping their authority doing that. We don’t need to.
Blah, Blah, Blah. You'd think everyone firing off here was 5 years old and it was the first time they believed something that was "possibly" untrue. First lie ever experienced. OH THE HUMANITY!!!
This is a "first world" problem. I'm sure everyone here has much deeper concerns and higher priorities in their lives than President Donald J Trump, President Joe Biden, President Barack Obama, or either of the two President George Bush's....... Get over it ALL, people, and live your lives, love your families and WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT go home and vent all of your frustrations on those that love you the most. Look to yourselves and be careful which stones you cast. And that's all I have to say about that :-))))))))
They may be grossly incompetent at their primary jobs, but I think history tells us they are supremely competent in covering their tracks. The two are not mutually exclusive.
If there isn’t anything there, how was Maxwell found guilty and he in jail? Why would he commit suicide? What about Prince Andrew? Is he only affected because one of the abused girls came forward during the Maxwell trial?
So, instead of Bondi, Patel and Bongino exercising high visibility on the issue, holding an open-end press conference that will last until the final legitimate question is genuinely answered, not avoided, they let their conclusions be made public by Axios? And that’s okay? We just smile and trust them? Their method of release of their conclusion is at least, sloppy, incompetent, which leads people who are quite accustomed to being lied to by government officials to conclude that they are hearing just the next series of lies and obfuscations. If they are that insensitive to the reputation and almost total loss of credibility of the FBI, and are not fully committed to regaining their integrity, then they too should be fired. When America is totally accustomed to being lied to, and we elect a President who we trusted and expect to “drain the swamp” and yet still seem to be observing just the next smoke screen, why should we believe otherwise?
I now believe that Bongino was hired, not to do a hard-hitting flawless job, but to pull him out occasionally to use his personal reputation as needed to cover up the next set of games. Sorry, Erick. I’m not complacent nor tacitly complicit in the sexual assault of the young women. And the rumor/fact that some of them took payoffs to be silent doesn’t change the truth. So I, to some degree, disagree with your opinion on this matter. I’m tired of America’s citizens being lied to, or just misled, and treated like we’re all dumb lemmings. We don’t deserve this.
Have we gotten so invested with Conspiracies that we believe everything out there instead of more likely reasons. Staff that were partisans plus those who ignored/lost/misplaced, mislead or interpreted add lazy or incompentant ones who don't follow up or that toady up for raises, better assignments, promotions, or went along to keep jobs? Really was he dumb enough to keep a list etc. why risk having tons of "patrons" when safer with small core group. He did need people as cover, attention from high profile friends too. (Trump would be cover if you pay any attention to his patterns.) We have so many real problems and illegal behavior currently ongoing to be wasting so much time on this, he is dead. Trump is in office, new people in charge with REAL issues that need fixing I'm sure both Bongino & Patel knew a lot of this was going on but never dreamed of the extent till got in there. They didn't want to believe the #1 LE agency was in such bad shape. Old timers had been leaving and were replaced with all college educated (Danger Will Robinson), more used to computers doing the work than actual procedures. Remember the 302's of interviews were not video taped until very recently so many of them, especially read later, can be useless or even misleading as only agents recollections of interview written down afterwards with no tone of voice/facial expressions to help with context. There are still some great agents working for right reasons but many for many reasons are not. At this point probably trying to fix issues, change procedures, retrain, remove those he can't and energize the agency like Hegspeth doing with Military before all confidence is gone. We need to move on, ICE in particular needs our support, who was running Biden admin, not all this Epstien mess as it is no longer about "we are being lied to" at this point any evidence is long gone anyway so it is collossal waste of time and energy!
Look, lets be honest - there are nut jobs on the extreme right wing with crazy conspiracies. Also, there are nut jobs on the extreme left wing with crazy conspiracies.
As soon as you stop listening to the news industry telling you what is going to happen instead of reporting the news of what happened, you will enjoy more sunshine and grass. Good Day.
There is a God! We can demand justice but those who chose money over exposing the truth will also receive their just reward in the end. Too many powerful people on the "list" that doesn't exist 🤔
We have so many real problems and illegal behavior currently ongoing to be wasting so much time on this, He is Dead. Trump is in office, new people in charge with REAL issues that need fixing. I'm sure both Bongino & Patel knew a lot of this was going on but never dreamed of the extent till got in there. They didn't want to believe the #1 LE agency was in such bad shape. Old timers had been leaving, replaced with all college educated (Danger Will Robinson) and remember the 302's of interviews were not video taped until very recently so many of them, especially read later, can be useless or even misleading as only agents recollections of interview written down afterwards. There are still some great agents working for right reasons but many for many reasons are not. At this point they are probably trying to fix issues, change procedures, retrain, remove those they can't and energize the agency like Hegspeth doing with Military before all confidence is gone. We need to move on, ICE in particular needs our support, this Epstien mess is no longer about "we are being lied to" they looked and at this point any evidence is long gone anyway so it is collossal waste of time and energy! Have we gotten so invested with Conspiracies that we believe everything out there instead of more likely reasons. Staff that were partisans plus those who ignored/lost/misplaced, mislead or interpreted add lazy or incompentant ones who don't follow up or that toady up for raises, better assignments, promotions, or went along to keep jobs? Really was he dumb enough to keep a list etc. why risk having tons of "patrons" when safer with small core group. He did need people as cover and loved attention from high profile people. (Trump would be cover if you pay any attention to his patterns.) Let's fix what can be fixed! Bondi caught between, Trump, MAGA, Conspiracy believers and failed to thread needle but I'm fine as was No-Win for her.
Lie vs miscommunication Erick - are you absolutely sure you know that she *intentionally* misled the public when she said "It's on my desk to review"? As an attorney yourself, you know you would always have the entire case file to review, not just one piece of paper taken from the file.
I love you brother but you need to retract this statement. It is indefensible.
This is all such a deplorable mess. And focusing on who said what and which names are obviously being protected takes away from the true tragedy of stealing the innocence of our young girls. Add that to the disaster of dozens of sweet girls swept away and now we have something that demands our full attention. This. Not that. This.
Conspiracy - "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful". I guess one could also disagree if something was a conspiracy or not based on the amount of intelligent thought that went into the "conspiracy" and the status of those "conspiring". The Fulton County school test score improvement wasn't a conspiracy according to almost all media outlets and politicians at the time until it was a proven conspiracy. Are the following conspiracies? - Howard Gebler and the Kennedy assassination (a new old one), J6, vaccines are not harmful, Covid vaccines are not harmful, climate change, the 2020 Presidential vote count, the 1960 Presidential vote count, Volkswagen emissions testing, we will balance the budget, and on and on and on. The definition of conspiracy should be amended to read "a secret plan, or a plan so obfuscated by lies and half-truths it seems unintelligible, carried out by a group, organized or not, to do something unlawful, or harmful or something for the greater good".
I'm throwing the BS flag on this. First, Erick you are recycling your jokes. You used the same bit about the release of the JFK files. Second, fire Bondi because of this nonsense? The clip you showed could easily be her acknowledging that the Epstein files were on her desk - not his supposed list. The interviewer further asked if there was anything that would cause her to say, "Oh my gosh!" And she said no. There was no bombshell, and she said no.
I'm surprised not one person who wrote back said something to point out the 'missing' one minute of film from the cameras outside Epstein's prison cell. I'm seeing that online, too. More conspiracy?
Jeff Childers has a good write up on it today https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/semi-transparent-tuesday-july-8-2025?r=rgl4h&utm_medium=ios
Impressive. Thanks for sharing.
The problem Erick is the FBI and government period they have lost the confidence of people so now everything is a conspiracy
Sorry. I find this,ludicrous. Can’t believe how disappointed I am I. You for this post. This is the first administration that has been truthful and honest in years. Pam Bondi is the best AG we have had in decades. To fire her over this mistake is ridiculous. Did she lie? I don’t think so. Was she overzealous in what she believed? Most likely.
We need to quit trying to sabotage the Trump Administration. We have enough federal judges overstepping their authority doing that. We don’t need to.
Criticize her yes, Fire her NO!
This is satire, right?
Blah, Blah, Blah. You'd think everyone firing off here was 5 years old and it was the first time they believed something that was "possibly" untrue. First lie ever experienced. OH THE HUMANITY!!!
This is a "first world" problem. I'm sure everyone here has much deeper concerns and higher priorities in their lives than President Donald J Trump, President Joe Biden, President Barack Obama, or either of the two President George Bush's....... Get over it ALL, people, and live your lives, love your families and WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT go home and vent all of your frustrations on those that love you the most. Look to yourselves and be careful which stones you cast. And that's all I have to say about that :-))))))))
They may be grossly incompetent at their primary jobs, but I think history tells us they are supremely competent in covering their tracks. The two are not mutually exclusive.
If there isn’t anything there, how was Maxwell found guilty and he in jail? Why would he commit suicide? What about Prince Andrew? Is he only affected because one of the abused girls came forward during the Maxwell trial?
So, instead of Bondi, Patel and Bongino exercising high visibility on the issue, holding an open-end press conference that will last until the final legitimate question is genuinely answered, not avoided, they let their conclusions be made public by Axios? And that’s okay? We just smile and trust them? Their method of release of their conclusion is at least, sloppy, incompetent, which leads people who are quite accustomed to being lied to by government officials to conclude that they are hearing just the next series of lies and obfuscations. If they are that insensitive to the reputation and almost total loss of credibility of the FBI, and are not fully committed to regaining their integrity, then they too should be fired. When America is totally accustomed to being lied to, and we elect a President who we trusted and expect to “drain the swamp” and yet still seem to be observing just the next smoke screen, why should we believe otherwise?
I now believe that Bongino was hired, not to do a hard-hitting flawless job, but to pull him out occasionally to use his personal reputation as needed to cover up the next set of games. Sorry, Erick. I’m not complacent nor tacitly complicit in the sexual assault of the young women. And the rumor/fact that some of them took payoffs to be silent doesn’t change the truth. So I, to some degree, disagree with your opinion on this matter. I’m tired of America’s citizens being lied to, or just misled, and treated like we’re all dumb lemmings. We don’t deserve this.
Have we gotten so invested with Conspiracies that we believe everything out there instead of more likely reasons. Staff that were partisans plus those who ignored/lost/misplaced, mislead or interpreted add lazy or incompentant ones who don't follow up or that toady up for raises, better assignments, promotions, or went along to keep jobs? Really was he dumb enough to keep a list etc. why risk having tons of "patrons" when safer with small core group. He did need people as cover, attention from high profile friends too. (Trump would be cover if you pay any attention to his patterns.) We have so many real problems and illegal behavior currently ongoing to be wasting so much time on this, he is dead. Trump is in office, new people in charge with REAL issues that need fixing I'm sure both Bongino & Patel knew a lot of this was going on but never dreamed of the extent till got in there. They didn't want to believe the #1 LE agency was in such bad shape. Old timers had been leaving and were replaced with all college educated (Danger Will Robinson), more used to computers doing the work than actual procedures. Remember the 302's of interviews were not video taped until very recently so many of them, especially read later, can be useless or even misleading as only agents recollections of interview written down afterwards with no tone of voice/facial expressions to help with context. There are still some great agents working for right reasons but many for many reasons are not. At this point probably trying to fix issues, change procedures, retrain, remove those he can't and energize the agency like Hegspeth doing with Military before all confidence is gone. We need to move on, ICE in particular needs our support, who was running Biden admin, not all this Epstien mess as it is no longer about "we are being lied to" at this point any evidence is long gone anyway so it is collossal waste of time and energy!
Look, lets be honest - there are nut jobs on the extreme right wing with crazy conspiracies. Also, there are nut jobs on the extreme left wing with crazy conspiracies.
As soon as you stop listening to the news industry telling you what is going to happen instead of reporting the news of what happened, you will enjoy more sunshine and grass. Good Day.
There is a God! We can demand justice but those who chose money over exposing the truth will also receive their just reward in the end. Too many powerful people on the "list" that doesn't exist 🤔
I tend to believe it’s both a conspiracy and Washington rank incompetence.