The ICE Protests and violence make great cover for the Fraud in MN. Giving the bad actors more time to obliterate evidence. The ICE protesters are protecting murderers, rapists, Sexual Assault, violent assault, Fraud, theft, and Car Jackings. And Waltz's reaction is to falsely claim ICE went after a school. He had already canceled school, for the drama, for the fear he could put in parents. References to George Floyd are to subtly say burn it down again. He has said the ICE agent committed murder and you have to protect yourself from Federal murders. He makes a distinction of the Good Guy local cops and the Federal agents who are "creating violence". If protesters would go away - so would the violence. The agents could then arrest the criminals they were sent to get. You know, the rapists, murderers, Fraudsters, etc.
Common, dude. The tone of your comment is like someone saying the January 6th rioters stormed the Capitol knowing full well that Trump had lost. No one is trying to protect murderers (with the possible exception of the officer who just shot that woman) and rapists. Even if the effort is misguided, those people are trying to protect their neighbors.
The people throwing things and threatening our ICE and other law enforcement remind me of the protesters spitting on and throwing things at Viet Nam vets upon returning home in the late 60's. They are no different.
The guys in Nam were going after Vietcong, with whom the people spitting on them had no relationship. ICE is going after these people's friends and neighbors. Though I don't necessarily like it in either instance, I get people being upset at ICE.
That addresses the difference between those doing the spitting in the two cases. Turning now to the difference between those being spat upon, our guys in Vietnam were facing trained cadre who were organized and quite well armed. ICE is chasing stockboys across parking lots; three or four well armed and trained officers for each stockboy. The two situations are quite different.
To show what law enforcement officers face in a situation like this, watch this little clip from the TV series "Blue Bloods" Tom Selleck, as Frank Reagan, tells a reporter just what it is like to have to make a instant life or death decision. Start at 0:49 in the clip:
Didn't watch the clip, but I get it. There is no way that ICE officer actually had to fire a shot. (See my comment about an M-1 tank below) However, that is really easy for me to say, sitting here in the comfort of my easy chair.
Let's see what the investigation reveals. If he fired at that woman after the car was no longer even pointed at him, it was no longer an "instant life or death decision."
One thing clear in the video with audio is the officer approaching from the left ordered her to get out, he reached in and she panicked, backed up turned her wheels toward the officer in front of her. She floored the accelerator, he shot, she hit him, he sustained a minor injury. She got shot for harassing the officers for 2 hours with her car. Resisted arrest. aimed her weapon/car) at the officer because Democrats tell protesters to resist and do anything to Fight this evil. She probably just wanted to escape, but he was in her path.
I'm not going to opine on whether or not he should have fired. I can't put myself in his place. I wish he hadn't and we could be talking about something else today. She DID need to be caught and arrested at some point.
As for the SUV and tank analogy, yes getting hit with either at a slow rate of speed might not cause serious injury. However getting hit, losing your footing on ice, and then getting run over by said SUV or tank while you're on the ground, there would be a distinct possibility of getting seriously hurt or killed. For what that's worth.
All valid points. However, they don't address the main point I was trying to make, which concerns the lack of any threat justifying the use of deadly force, once the officer was no longer positioned in the path of the SUV.
Alas, Erick, I hope you have not just beclowned yourself. First, with respect to the claim of self-defense, let's set aside the likelihood that were one hit by an M-1 tank traveling at the speed of that SUV, it would not even leave a bruise. Set aside the possibility (which let me admit, is debatable) of the officer simply stepping out of the vehicle's path. Assuming that every single thing you've said in describing the incident is true, if the officer fired at any point after which he was no longer in the path of that woman's vehicle, his actions were also no longer in self-defense.
I think it incredibly telling that people looking at the video evidence that is available at this point come away with completely different conclusions. Those supporting what ICE is doing see an officer being hit by the SUV. Those in opposition see an officer who is firing at the driver through its side window. This only confirms my oft repeated assertion (in response to claims of bias on the part of the press) that NO ONE IS OBJECTIVE. The only objectively reasonable thing that can be said at this point is to state what one thinks one sees, with the caveat that we cannot know for sure until an investigation is concluded.
I can tell you this. It will be a really easy investigation. Matching up the audio with slow motion analysis of the video evidence will tell us exactly where the officer was in relation to the front of the vehicle when he fired each of the three shots. Moreover, matching up the entry points of each round with where they landed will further confirm where the officer was, in relation to the front of the vehicle, when each round was fired. Being in opposition to how ICE is proceeding, I tend to think the officer will end up in the very handcuffs that he intended for some unfortunate immigrant. However, also being objectively reasonable and acknowledging my own bias, I await the outcome of the investigation.
The true tragedy here is that in a split second, a little boy became an orphan. Something like this was bound to happen, given the level of hostility. Now, a young woman is dead, the cause has its martyr, and once again, Minnesota will become ground zero. May God help us all.
While I have immense sympathy for her families and loved ones... I can't muster one scintilla of sympathy for Ms. Good. I have more sympathy for the agent... who will always live with the fact that he took a life, no matter how justified his actions were.
Back when we saw people in NYC throwing buckets of ice water and drinks on officers, who were not allowed to respond, it was only a matter of time before we saw the protesting of, assaults on, and widespread disdain for law enforcement we now see.
I agree that she should not have been obstructing the agents. However, I have to say that our president should refrain from making quick statements that are flat out untrue. POTUS said, "It is a miracle the officer survived." All the videos show clearly that is not correct.
Is it not also true that the officer could have - and perhaps should have - made a non-lethal shot into the car?
The (not far-)right/Republicans must attempt to rein in his most incendiary language, especially the out-and-out inflammatory MISstatements.
Does someone know how to contact Susie Wiles who may have the most difficult job in the administration? Can someone do the same thing with Stephen Miller? Maybe his pregnant wife?! Please....
The officer shot straight through the front windshield to her head. If you are 3 feet +- from a SUV, the only thing to target is upper chest and head. Let alone do an Annie Oakley sharpshooter trick shot. I have watched several videos from different angles. Including one with audio. She is clearly told to get out of the car, the officer from the left reaches in to get her. I assume she panicked, backed up a little, tires were at that point aimed at the officer, she floored it and started to turn a little more. He in self-defense shot her. This wasn't murder. This was to stupid and amped up by Waltz etc. to live.
It's telling that Trump is spreading outright lies and everybody just shrugs it off. The bar for that guy is so low that obvious lies are ignored. "Recovering in the hospital" Okay.
So silly, really? Make a non lethal shot into the car? Reality is not a cowboy movie, even more so when your decision window is a couple of seconds. This is so the progressive mindset, no consequences for bad decisions; try to embrace reality.
Is this the first time this lady interacted with ICE? From a clip I heard, she was described (in my view of what I heard) that she was good at blocking and considered a leader in the group. Meaning she has done this before and clearly ICE agents have faced this situation before. This is not a one-off event and hopefully the protestors will back off and let law enforcement do their job without being obstructed by protestors.
It looks like he had plenty of time to roll up a couple of snowballs and toss them in her general direction. That would have sufficed, and she would have then been able to come back and block the street another day.
In addition to the ICE agents being interfered with, after agents left and police was investigating, the mob threw snowballs and engaged in general disrespect to the policemen, too. It's a culture of disrespect towards authority. It's anarchical.
My son opined that they want anarchy but with the security that comes with good governance (which includes police). They are detached from Natural Law, of cause and effect.
This woman put herself and her individual passions - which placed herself in harm's way - ahead of her responsibility of being a mother. As a mother, that angers me.
That woman acted as she might have acted in the 1850's, trying to prevent runaway slaves from being captured. Whether one agrees or disagrees with her actions, one must respect the fact that she ended up putting her life on the line for what she believed.
Oh wow. What a massive ridiculous comparison. None of the illegals being arrested by ICE are slaves. Unreal. There is absolutely no comparison whatsoever to a person in bondage, against their will, versus a person who willfully comes into another country illegally and then takes from those who live in that country. What a reach.
As with Pool below, I acknowledge that your point is well taken. However, I am not comparing slaves to illegal immigrants. Rather, I am comparing the people who selflessly undertook risks to help runaways to people who are now selflessly trying to protect their immigrant neighbors.
You absolutely did in your opening. Trying to give her credit for that is absolutely ridiculous. And now you again did. No. Protecting those who were in bondage fleeing such is in no way the same as protecting illegal aliens who broke the law to come into this country and further disrespect the laws of this country. So, per your thinking, same could be said for those who protected Lakens murderer.
Sorry but comparing ICE agents arresting illegal immigrants that might have committed a felony in the US to fugitive slaves being captured in Minnesota after the passage of the fugitive slave act is not helpful in convincing people of your position WRT the enforcement of immigration laws.
Although I must confess to comparing ICE agents to slave catchers in the past, I believe you misread my comment here, where I am comparing the people who are trying to protect their neighbors from being taken today to people who were trying to protect their neighbors from being taken then. There being a significant difference between deporting people and sending them back into slavery, I will concede the difference between ICE agents and slave catchers. However, just like illegal immigrants, after the passage of the Fugitive Slave Act, slaves who had escaped north had no legal right to be where they were. Anyone trying to help runaway slaves put themselves at risk, similarly to the woman who got shot yesterday. Moreover, in both instances, whether misguided or not, their motivations were entirely selfless.
I'm tempted to analyze and parse the particular incident yesterday in Minneapolis, but with what I've learned since it happened it isn't really necessary. I say that because apparently Good made a habit of doing this exact foolish thing, to the point of gaining respect for it in her chosen circle of jerks. Tragic? I have a different take on that that probably won't be popular.
The Mayor of Minneapolis beclowned himself on a tragic level, not for his GTFO comment (that's just how clowns talk) but for blatantly lying about what the video showed, for which clown world will now applaud.
The ICE agent who didn't ask to be struck by a car but was tragically has to deal with the mental anguish of having taken the life of another. That isn't eased by how understandable it is that his self-preservation instinct kicked in or that he acted in self defense.
Good's son is experiencing the most tragedy. He didn't ask to be orphaned but was, foolishly.
Good herself? Not tragic at all, simple cause and effect. The specific cause is a series of utterly foolish decisions. She had apparently made the same ones before and gotten extremely lucky not to have paid a terrible price sooner. In short, a fool pressed her luck foolishly until it ran out.
If her death is to have any earthly value, it will be to serve as a cautionary tale to other fools. If even one of them pauses and thinks maybe it would be a good idea not to put themselves in the same position, there's value in that. Not that it would be a worthwhile transaction, but some value at least. Don't waste any hope on that though. Foolishness tends to inspire the foolish, not the wise, and there's a lot more foolishness where hers came from.
Like Michale brown. 19 years old. built like an NFL DE or OT. 6' 5" 295 lbs. with a 5% body fat percentage. Probably in the 99% of athletic talent. He woke up. Then a series of poor decision that led to his death. 1st used marijuana. 2nd committed a strong-arm robbery. 3rd walk down the middle of a city street. 4th punched a cop in the face fracturing his orbital socket. 5th reached in the patrol car at which point the police officers gun discharged striking him in the finger, leaving the bullet and his blood in the police car. At this point he made a good decision. Michale retreated. But then he made his last and most tragic decision. he decided to charge the police officer from 15 feet away. The police officer was now standing outside his patrol car holding his firearm, from 15 feet away. The police officer now feared for his life, fired three times, striking Michael in the chest, killing him.
What did the press do? Propagate the Hands up Don't shot narrative for many months unchallenged until the Attorney General, Eric Holder, Obama's wing man, issued the report saying that was untrue. For months the nation was treated to riots based on a lie.
I'll go foolish idiot!! She got herself killed being an idiot. The Feds have warrants to arrest truly evil illegal aliesn. You think she is a martyr. The people who will be raped, beaten, murdered, stolen from and coerced will curse her and you for letting them prey on our citizens.
Setting aside the redundancy of "foolish idiot," that woman apparently died trying to do something for someone other than herself. Even assuming everything you say, that's a pretty noble way to go.
And it’s a means to an end. Similarly to Erick’s theory about potential violence from the climate terrorists, the far left appears to be encouraging violence here, HOPING to create a situation in which some level of martial law is ordered. Then they can scream “See! He’s a dictator! We told you so.”
Another spot on commentary…one has to ask why Democrats want to inflame, engage in incendiary rhetoric, and foster violence and conflict.
ICE is doing its job, performing an exceptional job in removing from our streets violent illegal aliens. The question must be asked of Democrats: why don’t you want these types removed? Why are you protecting them?
Thank you, ICE, and the Trump Administration for protecting America.
Two points: First, how many times must we re-learn basic rules of engagement with law enforcement? 1) do not run or interfere; 2) cooperate; 3) never, ever assault or attack law enforcement, especially with a deadly weapon, whether a gun, a knife, or a 2,000 lbs. vehicle.
Second, all we have is one video from one angle or perspective. What was said to, and by, the officers in question? What did the officer who pulled the trigger see just before he employed his weapon? Are there other videos? What do we know about the woman who tragically lost her life?
There are reasons why the Good Lord inspired four versions of Christ's life on earth (the Gospels) in the New Testament. We're treated to the same stories over and over, but with different perspectives and reports (none contradictory). Good police investigators understand this and collect and analyze as many eye-witness reports as possible, and some will no doubt differ. Others will contain new information.
I saw a headline from WaPo this morning that said no agent was in front of the car when the ICE agent shot the driver. They claimed to have video.
The ICE Protests and violence make great cover for the Fraud in MN. Giving the bad actors more time to obliterate evidence. The ICE protesters are protecting murderers, rapists, Sexual Assault, violent assault, Fraud, theft, and Car Jackings. And Waltz's reaction is to falsely claim ICE went after a school. He had already canceled school, for the drama, for the fear he could put in parents. References to George Floyd are to subtly say burn it down again. He has said the ICE agent committed murder and you have to protect yourself from Federal murders. He makes a distinction of the Good Guy local cops and the Federal agents who are "creating violence". If protesters would go away - so would the violence. The agents could then arrest the criminals they were sent to get. You know, the rapists, murderers, Fraudsters, etc.
Common, dude. The tone of your comment is like someone saying the January 6th rioters stormed the Capitol knowing full well that Trump had lost. No one is trying to protect murderers (with the possible exception of the officer who just shot that woman) and rapists. Even if the effort is misguided, those people are trying to protect their neighbors.
The people throwing things and threatening our ICE and other law enforcement remind me of the protesters spitting on and throwing things at Viet Nam vets upon returning home in the late 60's. They are no different.
You're joking, right?
The guys in Nam were going after Vietcong, with whom the people spitting on them had no relationship. ICE is going after these people's friends and neighbors. Though I don't necessarily like it in either instance, I get people being upset at ICE.
That addresses the difference between those doing the spitting in the two cases. Turning now to the difference between those being spat upon, our guys in Vietnam were facing trained cadre who were organized and quite well armed. ICE is chasing stockboys across parking lots; three or four well armed and trained officers for each stockboy. The two situations are quite different.
Hey Erick. Just listened to your bit on Babbitt v Good. I am fine with you lifting my topics from these comments, but at least give me credit. 😂
Catching on. Jonathan Last from Dispatch did same thing. To your credit, you were the first though.
To show what law enforcement officers face in a situation like this, watch this little clip from the TV series "Blue Bloods" Tom Selleck, as Frank Reagan, tells a reporter just what it is like to have to make a instant life or death decision. Start at 0:49 in the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DHUPtWTuJk
Didn't watch the clip, but I get it. There is no way that ICE officer actually had to fire a shot. (See my comment about an M-1 tank below) However, that is really easy for me to say, sitting here in the comfort of my easy chair.
Let's see what the investigation reveals. If he fired at that woman after the car was no longer even pointed at him, it was no longer an "instant life or death decision."
One thing clear in the video with audio is the officer approaching from the left ordered her to get out, he reached in and she panicked, backed up turned her wheels toward the officer in front of her. She floored the accelerator, he shot, she hit him, he sustained a minor injury. She got shot for harassing the officers for 2 hours with her car. Resisted arrest. aimed her weapon/car) at the officer because Democrats tell protesters to resist and do anything to Fight this evil. She probably just wanted to escape, but he was in her path.
The video with audio was long enough to show that she harassed the officers with her car for two hours?
Given that no one can resist arrest without being told she is under arrest, can the officers be heard telling her that?
I'm not going to opine on whether or not he should have fired. I can't put myself in his place. I wish he hadn't and we could be talking about something else today. She DID need to be caught and arrested at some point.
As for the SUV and tank analogy, yes getting hit with either at a slow rate of speed might not cause serious injury. However getting hit, losing your footing on ice, and then getting run over by said SUV or tank while you're on the ground, there would be a distinct possibility of getting seriously hurt or killed. For what that's worth.
All valid points. However, they don't address the main point I was trying to make, which concerns the lack of any threat justifying the use of deadly force, once the officer was no longer positioned in the path of the SUV.
Their whole purpose in being in that situation was to give ICE trouble, Good’s wife was videotaping the event, then the consequences came.
Alas, Erick, I hope you have not just beclowned yourself. First, with respect to the claim of self-defense, let's set aside the likelihood that were one hit by an M-1 tank traveling at the speed of that SUV, it would not even leave a bruise. Set aside the possibility (which let me admit, is debatable) of the officer simply stepping out of the vehicle's path. Assuming that every single thing you've said in describing the incident is true, if the officer fired at any point after which he was no longer in the path of that woman's vehicle, his actions were also no longer in self-defense.
I think it incredibly telling that people looking at the video evidence that is available at this point come away with completely different conclusions. Those supporting what ICE is doing see an officer being hit by the SUV. Those in opposition see an officer who is firing at the driver through its side window. This only confirms my oft repeated assertion (in response to claims of bias on the part of the press) that NO ONE IS OBJECTIVE. The only objectively reasonable thing that can be said at this point is to state what one thinks one sees, with the caveat that we cannot know for sure until an investigation is concluded.
I can tell you this. It will be a really easy investigation. Matching up the audio with slow motion analysis of the video evidence will tell us exactly where the officer was in relation to the front of the vehicle when he fired each of the three shots. Moreover, matching up the entry points of each round with where they landed will further confirm where the officer was, in relation to the front of the vehicle, when each round was fired. Being in opposition to how ICE is proceeding, I tend to think the officer will end up in the very handcuffs that he intended for some unfortunate immigrant. However, also being objectively reasonable and acknowledging my own bias, I await the outcome of the investigation.
The true tragedy here is that in a split second, a little boy became an orphan. Something like this was bound to happen, given the level of hostility. Now, a young woman is dead, the cause has its martyr, and once again, Minnesota will become ground zero. May God help us all.
While I have immense sympathy for her families and loved ones... I can't muster one scintilla of sympathy for Ms. Good. I have more sympathy for the agent... who will always live with the fact that he took a life, no matter how justified his actions were.
Back when we saw people in NYC throwing buckets of ice water and drinks on officers, who were not allowed to respond, it was only a matter of time before we saw the protesting of, assaults on, and widespread disdain for law enforcement we now see.
God help us.
I agree that she should not have been obstructing the agents. However, I have to say that our president should refrain from making quick statements that are flat out untrue. POTUS said, "It is a miracle the officer survived." All the videos show clearly that is not correct.
Is it not also true that the officer could have - and perhaps should have - made a non-lethal shot into the car?
The (not far-)right/Republicans must attempt to rein in his most incendiary language, especially the out-and-out inflammatory MISstatements.
Does someone know how to contact Susie Wiles who may have the most difficult job in the administration? Can someone do the same thing with Stephen Miller? Maybe his pregnant wife?! Please....
The officer shot straight through the front windshield to her head. If you are 3 feet +- from a SUV, the only thing to target is upper chest and head. Let alone do an Annie Oakley sharpshooter trick shot. I have watched several videos from different angles. Including one with audio. She is clearly told to get out of the car, the officer from the left reaches in to get her. I assume she panicked, backed up a little, tires were at that point aimed at the officer, she floored it and started to turn a little more. He in self-defense shot her. This wasn't murder. This was to stupid and amped up by Waltz etc. to live.
It's telling that Trump is spreading outright lies and everybody just shrugs it off. The bar for that guy is so low that obvious lies are ignored. "Recovering in the hospital" Okay.
So silly, really? Make a non lethal shot into the car? Reality is not a cowboy movie, even more so when your decision window is a couple of seconds. This is so the progressive mindset, no consequences for bad decisions; try to embrace reality.
Is this the first time this lady interacted with ICE? From a clip I heard, she was described (in my view of what I heard) that she was good at blocking and considered a leader in the group. Meaning she has done this before and clearly ICE agents have faced this situation before. This is not a one-off event and hopefully the protestors will back off and let law enforcement do their job without being obstructed by protestors.
Voted for Trump 3 times so you misjudge me greatly.
It looks like he had plenty of time to roll up a couple of snowballs and toss them in her general direction. That would have sufficed, and she would have then been able to come back and block the street another day.
Silly comment from someone who uses a pseudo name. A nonlethal shot is not a snowball. Trump’s urge to make quick comments is not helpful.
In addition to the ICE agents being interfered with, after agents left and police was investigating, the mob threw snowballs and engaged in general disrespect to the policemen, too. It's a culture of disrespect towards authority. It's anarchical.
My son opined that they want anarchy but with the security that comes with good governance (which includes police). They are detached from Natural Law, of cause and effect.
This woman put herself and her individual passions - which placed herself in harm's way - ahead of her responsibility of being a mother. As a mother, that angers me.
That woman acted as she might have acted in the 1850's, trying to prevent runaway slaves from being captured. Whether one agrees or disagrees with her actions, one must respect the fact that she ended up putting her life on the line for what she believed.
Oh wow. What a massive ridiculous comparison. None of the illegals being arrested by ICE are slaves. Unreal. There is absolutely no comparison whatsoever to a person in bondage, against their will, versus a person who willfully comes into another country illegally and then takes from those who live in that country. What a reach.
As with Pool below, I acknowledge that your point is well taken. However, I am not comparing slaves to illegal immigrants. Rather, I am comparing the people who selflessly undertook risks to help runaways to people who are now selflessly trying to protect their immigrant neighbors.
You absolutely did in your opening. Trying to give her credit for that is absolutely ridiculous. And now you again did. No. Protecting those who were in bondage fleeing such is in no way the same as protecting illegal aliens who broke the law to come into this country and further disrespect the laws of this country. So, per your thinking, same could be said for those who protected Lakens murderer.
Sorry but comparing ICE agents arresting illegal immigrants that might have committed a felony in the US to fugitive slaves being captured in Minnesota after the passage of the fugitive slave act is not helpful in convincing people of your position WRT the enforcement of immigration laws.
Although I must confess to comparing ICE agents to slave catchers in the past, I believe you misread my comment here, where I am comparing the people who are trying to protect their neighbors from being taken today to people who were trying to protect their neighbors from being taken then. There being a significant difference between deporting people and sending them back into slavery, I will concede the difference between ICE agents and slave catchers. However, just like illegal immigrants, after the passage of the Fugitive Slave Act, slaves who had escaped north had no legal right to be where they were. Anyone trying to help runaway slaves put themselves at risk, similarly to the woman who got shot yesterday. Moreover, in both instances, whether misguided or not, their motivations were entirely selfless.
I'm tempted to analyze and parse the particular incident yesterday in Minneapolis, but with what I've learned since it happened it isn't really necessary. I say that because apparently Good made a habit of doing this exact foolish thing, to the point of gaining respect for it in her chosen circle of jerks. Tragic? I have a different take on that that probably won't be popular.
The Mayor of Minneapolis beclowned himself on a tragic level, not for his GTFO comment (that's just how clowns talk) but for blatantly lying about what the video showed, for which clown world will now applaud.
The ICE agent who didn't ask to be struck by a car but was tragically has to deal with the mental anguish of having taken the life of another. That isn't eased by how understandable it is that his self-preservation instinct kicked in or that he acted in self defense.
Good's son is experiencing the most tragedy. He didn't ask to be orphaned but was, foolishly.
Good herself? Not tragic at all, simple cause and effect. The specific cause is a series of utterly foolish decisions. She had apparently made the same ones before and gotten extremely lucky not to have paid a terrible price sooner. In short, a fool pressed her luck foolishly until it ran out.
If her death is to have any earthly value, it will be to serve as a cautionary tale to other fools. If even one of them pauses and thinks maybe it would be a good idea not to put themselves in the same position, there's value in that. Not that it would be a worthwhile transaction, but some value at least. Don't waste any hope on that though. Foolishness tends to inspire the foolish, not the wise, and there's a lot more foolishness where hers came from.
Like Michale brown. 19 years old. built like an NFL DE or OT. 6' 5" 295 lbs. with a 5% body fat percentage. Probably in the 99% of athletic talent. He woke up. Then a series of poor decision that led to his death. 1st used marijuana. 2nd committed a strong-arm robbery. 3rd walk down the middle of a city street. 4th punched a cop in the face fracturing his orbital socket. 5th reached in the patrol car at which point the police officers gun discharged striking him in the finger, leaving the bullet and his blood in the police car. At this point he made a good decision. Michale retreated. But then he made his last and most tragic decision. he decided to charge the police officer from 15 feet away. The police officer was now standing outside his patrol car holding his firearm, from 15 feet away. The police officer now feared for his life, fired three times, striking Michael in the chest, killing him.
What did the press do? Propagate the Hands up Don't shot narrative for many months unchallenged until the Attorney General, Eric Holder, Obama's wing man, issued the report saying that was untrue. For months the nation was treated to riots based on a lie.
Call me foolish, but I consider her a martyr.
I'll go foolish idiot!! She got herself killed being an idiot. The Feds have warrants to arrest truly evil illegal aliesn. You think she is a martyr. The people who will be raped, beaten, murdered, stolen from and coerced will curse her and you for letting them prey on our citizens.
Setting aside the redundancy of "foolish idiot," that woman apparently died trying to do something for someone other than herself. Even assuming everything you say, that's a pretty noble way to go.
And it’s a means to an end. Similarly to Erick’s theory about potential violence from the climate terrorists, the far left appears to be encouraging violence here, HOPING to create a situation in which some level of martial law is ordered. Then they can scream “See! He’s a dictator! We told you so.”
Spot on, Erick!
Thank you again for the truth, Erick.
Another spot on commentary…one has to ask why Democrats want to inflame, engage in incendiary rhetoric, and foster violence and conflict.
ICE is doing its job, performing an exceptional job in removing from our streets violent illegal aliens. The question must be asked of Democrats: why don’t you want these types removed? Why are you protecting them?
Thank you, ICE, and the Trump Administration for protecting America.
"Violent illegal aliens . . . ." That's funny. Have you even been paying attention?
Two points: First, how many times must we re-learn basic rules of engagement with law enforcement? 1) do not run or interfere; 2) cooperate; 3) never, ever assault or attack law enforcement, especially with a deadly weapon, whether a gun, a knife, or a 2,000 lbs. vehicle.
Second, all we have is one video from one angle or perspective. What was said to, and by, the officers in question? What did the officer who pulled the trigger see just before he employed his weapon? Are there other videos? What do we know about the woman who tragically lost her life?
There are reasons why the Good Lord inspired four versions of Christ's life on earth (the Gospels) in the New Testament. We're treated to the same stories over and over, but with different perspectives and reports (none contradictory). Good police investigators understand this and collect and analyze as many eye-witness reports as possible, and some will no doubt differ. Others will contain new information.
We should wait.