In the movie "The Princess Bride," Inigo Montoya (Mandy Patinkin's character) said he spent 20 years searching for the 6-fingered man. Now that this man was dead, Montoya didn't know what to do now. Bill Kristol and others for years have said a nuclear Iran is a threat and its regime must be ended. Their constant messaging has created "clicks" on their outlets generating money for them. Now that the Trump administration has done what they have championed, they don't know what to do now. Montoya was offered the opportunity to become the next Dread Pirate Roberts. What roles are Kristol and the others going to take?
So much of this is reducible to Orange Man Bad. And that which isn't is basically the same old same old Marxist Omnicause crap about "colonization", or commie symps that pulled that same "peace" crap in the 80s that was funded by the Commie Party of the Soviet Union.
The intersectionality stack rank ruins everything. IDGAF if someone thinks attacking Iran is "punching down".
Unless someone is a long-time isolationist libertarian who has long thought Fortress America should stay out of the rest of the world, I'm not taking them seriously.
I have emerged for a moment from my Lenten social media exile, (forgive me Lord) to say that I had a Persian boyfriend for 4 years. He was such a cheater. I dumped him in late 2021 to soon marry my now fabulous, rich, adorable husband. Persian man was such a Trump hater. We were on opposite sides of everything. Why did I hang around? He had a pool. My friends said don't dump him in the summer, we will lose our pool privileges, the steak and the booze. I waited until winter. I wonder what he says now? I celebrate with all those wonderful Iranians who seek peace in their homeland. I remember meeting with a Persian woman, about 4 years ago, in the racks at Macy's at Perimeter, crying with her over her homeland. She was a total stranger and yet, there we stood together in solidarity. I am also one of those crazies who believes that Trump is the Second Coming. Carry on. I return in peace to my social media exile.
Need more like George Will to stand up. It is TDS, I read CNN piece about this "great religious leader", if the Pope was sending out hit squads, was funding terrorists, killing those that disagreed with him, and threatening the rest of the world He would have been stopped long ago. They started the war, they kept it going, they keep funding and causing deaths, takeovers (Hezbollah in Lebanon). They also fund w China most of the misinformation about Israel & USA to our easily brainwashed collage students aging hippies, Trump doing is America 1st protecting our future safety.
The WORST PART of this note on Trumpenfreude is learning that George Will is 84. Time is fleeting and life is short. Two of my favorite George Will books are Men at Work, and the follow up (though not as good) Bunts. I watched the Morning Meeting earlier. Good job and Melissa represented her party well, too.
I am all for Trump's action against Iran. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. So, securing the border and now taking on Iran. Problem is that we now have to go halfway around clock again before we get to another "right." Perhaps at the next 6 o'clock we will get Trump's common sense derived cure for cancer. And maybe at the next 12 o'clock he will pen the next great American novel, written without the use of any "big words," of course. It is what we will get on all the other o'clocks that I am worried about.
If the only thing he ever does is removing the Iranian mothership from action it will be worth it. Trump has many obvious issues/flaws but as the past tells us so did ever other President. Many have done worse and infact put us where we are today mostly because they refused to take a real stand on something or actually try to something. The snark gets old we already know you hate tariffs so do a lot of folks. If he fails on Iran it will because he is undercut because of constant DTS, politicial BS, and folks that hate Israel.
As with the Planter and George Will, I support the move Trump has made against Iran. I still take issue with how he made it.
You talk about him being flawed like every other President. However, no other President - especially one having majorities in both houses of Congress - has tried to take us to war without at least some effort to get Congress and the American people behind him first.
To those willing to look past our Constitution's clear intent that no one man be able to take us to war, I have already asked how they're going feel when President Newsom unilaterally decides to put the boots of our sons and daughters on the ground in Ukraine. That may not have been the best illustration of my point, so let me ask you this.
If it's OK for Trump to make these decisions on his own, what is it that keeps Trump's next move from being against Greenland?
“If 84-year-old George Will can recognize what is happening, the thirty-something producers at the news networks of America should be able to as well.”
Unfortunately these “thirty-something” producers have not absorbed (if they have even studied) enough history to create a foundation for reasonable evaluation of current events; therefore, they will have to live 2 or 3 generations to develop a semi-valid basis for analysis.
Most of the MSM were not alive when the Shah of Iran was deposed never seen the chaos and brutality of the Islamist that took over the country where any dissent was crushed and prison or death was the Ayatollah’s response to anyone who opposed him and his mullah. Many in congress were not even born yet when all of this happened . The people of Iran want freedom and hopefully they will have it.
Laziness is partly to blame for the group-think. Their talking points come in early each day. Each parrots the other because they all got it from the same source. Original thought is a one-off.
It’s very often Heather Cox Richardson, whom they quote as if she is a goddess of wisdom. And she is so blatantly not that. Her missives are released just after midnight so the squawkers have it first thing in the morning.
I can understand why some people have the urge to oppose anything done by Trump. It is not happenstance that he is so reviled by some beyond the typical partisan rancor. His behavior and ACTIONS make him much more deserving of a prison cell than the Oval Office. I know many on here believe that Obama, or Biden are criminals, but that is just because of the hyper partisan media / projection that you consume that has to demonize the other side. Trump has actually committed serious crimes against the US from his illegal attempts to remain in power after losing an election, to his stealing off classified docs and repeated obstruction of justice, (not even to mention his gigantic corruption in his family's profiting off the office at a truly an unprecedented scale). Trump's continued existence as a major party nominee in 24 and then POTUS again after his truly odious behavior offends me to my core because it is a daily reminder that America is partially broken and likely on borrowed time. If a party can nominate someone like this / they can win then a great many of us no longer care for our democracy and we are now barely hanging on by the decaying scaffolding that our constitution / founders put in place. - I worry about this for our future generations (as much as I do our $40 trillion in debt).
Your point about TDS on both sides is spot on. If I had asked the majority of MAGA 2 years ago whether they supported: tariffs, huge ongoing budget deficits, extreme executive authority including allowing POTUS to set tax policy on a whim, war against Iran, etc. they would have adamantly opposed each of them, yet these same people now go nuts in support of each of them - It's maddening. Basically what I am trying to say is my version of TDS is justified, even patriotic while the other version is truly a deranged mental disorder 😉
I probably agree with Trump on the Iran war (as I give him credit for shutting the border), but it's tough to say (American lives have already been lost which obviously an incredibly steep price). Any war is incredibly costly in terms of lives and spend. The truth is we probably won't know for years the full set of consequences both good and bad from our actions. That won't stop Trump from claiming this to be the greatest military success since Washington and those with TDS on both sides from prematurely declaring it whatever their bias wants it to be. It's just strange to watch the same people who bashed neocons for the last 10 years unknowingly becoming the very thing they once despised.
Mr. Trump committed no crimes in challenging the 2020 presidential elections. Perhaps you have forgotten that Democrats challenged the 2000, 2004, and 2016 presidential elections?
Mr. Trump committed no crimes in taking documents with him after he left The White House. First, the documents were not classified. Second, even if the documents were classified, Mr. Trump was entitled to possess them. Third, the law governing presidential records is NOT a criminal statute.
Mr. Trump never obstructed justice. He has never been charged with that crime, and never credibly accused. That is simply a lie.
You ought to get down on your knees and pray thanks to God that Mr. Trump is President. Because Hillary. Because after Joe Biden was installed (not elected), and his 4 years of failure and decline. Because Kamala.
President Trump is cleaning up messes that have occurred over decades. He is doing the American people's work. What is "odious" is the Trump Derangement Syndrome affecting so many, including you. Because it is a disease of choice. Shame on you for your ingratitude.
Well, whoever you are, you are a welcome addition to this comment group. A really nice blend of intellect and MAGA cult nuttiness. You rarely see those qualities together in one person since most MAGAs barely finished high school.
Yes Democrats challenged elections in the courts or to the media, but to compare what they did to the scope of Trump's months long illegal campaign to stay in power using his position as POTUS and leader of the Republican party is extremely naive. I'd have no problem with what Trump did if he limited his challenges to the courts. As a lawyer, I'd think you'd understand that we have a whole branch of government dedicated to adjudicating things including election related challenges. But because courts have things like evidentiary standards, Trump could not get any traction on his absurd nonsense so he tried to use the power of his position in several ways to prevent the transfer of power.
A tiny sliver of the ways in which Trump & Co. illegally tried to end democracy in 2020 include: Trying to coerce secretaries of states and governors to throw him the election in their states, listen to the recorded call with Brad Raffensberger below (after Brad refused to go along with the scheme Trump recruited a primary challenger and tried to oust Brad as retribution for not going along).
Recruiting slates of fake electors in several states to fraudulently submit false documents on his behalf attempting to defraud the government, see source docs below.
Pressuring Pence to thrown out the electoral college and unilaterally make him President, hear Pence discuss this directly below. Also, Trump sat on his hands for 4 hours while a mob roamed the capital with zipties trying to hang Pence
Pence directly on what Trump tried to get him to do (you make your own judgement on who has a better reputation for honesty between Pence and Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tglap7tGwHg
On the FL docs case I have a question for you - have you even read the indictments? If the docs were no longer classified where can I review them? (its been years since they were supposedly declassified and Trump's own admin is back in power now so why is my foia request being ignored?
Also, on the obstruction of justice I simply direct you to look at the cooperation of his Mar A Lago IT person Yuscil Taveras (Trump Employee 4) and messages between his staff of idiots in cited in the court document below. This was after Taveras dropped the Trump paid lawyer and got his own to free him to tell about Trump's wanton lawlessness in obstructing justice in the FL docs case.
Yes in a perfect world Trump would have been prosecuted for his many crimes and thus had his chance to defend himself however pathetically in court. That doesn't stop me from reviewing the facts / cases, applying a modicum of common sense and seeing that the guy is a criminal.
You have not reviewed the facts, or applied any common sense. Mr. Trump is not a criminal. But you are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
There was nothing wrong or illegal in the telephone call to Brad Raffensberger.
"Fake electors" are not illegal. They have been employed many times in history, most recently (before 2020) by John Kennedy in Hawaii. A "fake elector" is simply an alternative elector who becomes an actual elector if the first actual elector is disqualified.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence disagreed on the options available to the Vice-President when it came to elector challenges. There are reasonable substantive arguments on both sides. Nothing illegal or improper here.
I repeat; Mr. Trump has never been charged with, or credibly accused of, obstruction of justice. Another lawyer's opinion does not change the facts.
Yes, I have read the indictments. And they are all gone, never to be adjudicated. Because the Biden Justice Department overreached, and illegally weaponized the Justice Department to go after a political enemy.
Finally, contrary to your belief, the courts are a 3rd branch of government, co-equal, but not supreme. You can pursue court remedies, but that does not prevent the President or Congress from using their own remedies to solve a problem. The court is not the final say in all instances.
Glen - when you say something like this "I repeat; Mr. Trump has never been charged with, or credibly accused of, obstruction of justice." it reveals that despite your claims above - you have not in fact actually read the indictments.
Anyone that claims to have reviewed the mountain of evidence against Trump (mainly gathered from his allies) that comes away thinking Trump is absolved either didn't actually review it or is the one who has TDS themself
Glen - As I demonstrated above you have not even read the indictments against Trump (despite your claiming to have done so) so I assume you also have very little grasp of any of the facts of the cases (as your arguments have shown).
The bottom line is that you seem to have unknowingly stepped into the ring here with Muhammad A-Blair of Substack comment board debate and have had the floor wiped with your arguments. No shame in losing to one of the Greats....
Something you have to understand about Glen is that as a criminal defense attorney he spends his entire day looking for whatever technicality, uncrossed t, undotted i, or "glove that does not fit" in order to keep his even most obviously guilty "clients" out of jail. We see these guys on the court steps all the time flat out lying about how their bloody handed clients are innocent as the driven snow or victims of some kind of "witch hunt" (sound familiar?) Defending the indefensible is really his job, and a challenge that he obviously takes to heart. This is why he is so obsessed with defending the Dear Leader.
Based on what I've read from Glen so far I actually think he may have done better than many of the bozos (Powel, Giulani, Ellis) that Trump recruited for his ridiculous cases
- he's got the passion for it - I'll give him that.
Yes with Trump it's a weird form of deranged logic. In the Fl docs case and DC prosecution, because he was not criminally convicted, he did nothing wrong, but in the NY case his felony conviction is bogus because ya know even courts get it wrong. Basically as long as the result is Trump did nothing wrong than I agree with it.
To paraphrase one of Trump's famous lines: I really don't think lawyers who keep criminals out of jail are heroes. I prefer the ones who put criminals in jail.
Last time I checked an apostrophe is considered to be a punctuation mark. But, in rereading, I did notice that I should have used "hanged" rather than "hung." Hanged being a form of execution while hung is just a descriptor of... well, you know. But at least I caught myself before you caught me. ;)
Our NATO allies are being less than helpful in operations against Iran. Spain denied the U.S. permission to use its airbases to launch attacks against Iran. Turkey lamented Ayatollah Khamenei's death, and insisted that no NATO bases in that country would be used against Iran. The surrender monkeys in France called for the cessation of hostilities. Great Britain initially denied the U.S. use of airbases on British territory, but finally relented, reluctantly, and only after an Iranian drone strike on a Royal Air Force base in Cyprus. Oh, how wonderful are our NATO allies whom we have defended for 81 years.
We've spent a year denigrating our NATO allies and flat said we might not be there for them if Russia attacks them. France probably remembers being called surrender Monkeys when they refused to aid in the Iraq War as well. They were vindicated in not getting involved in that war. Especially after Trump diminished the sacrifices of the countries that did get involved last year saying "they stayed near the rear".
Try going to church and denigrating the Deacon board and see how they respond to your future requests.
NATO owes the United States. Especially France--and they are surrender monkeys. But for the United States, in WWI and WWII, German would be that country's national language. They are ungrateful, cowardly, and weak. Hell, their national soccer team relies on Africans to even field a mildly competitive team.
Gratitude has a short shelf life in international relations. Without France's help in Revolutionary War we may not have been able to beat England. Yet in the next war between England and France we sided with England. (On commerce mostly) but we didn't help France. They felt like we should have.
We sided with England against the radical Jacobins of the French Revolution.
Again, since 1917, we have pulled France's chestnuts out of the fire while their army fled in fear. Since the end of WWII, we have enabled their socialist excesses while protecting them from the Soviet Union.
France (and all of NATO) owes us. The French are ungrateful, cowardly, cheese nibbling surrender monkeys. I do not have to get over it.
Of course you don't. It would just be better for you if you did. Trump has spent a year talking down to our allies and sucking up to Putin. Now y'all seem surprised that our allies don't won't stand by us. That's not the way life works.
But if it makes you feel better to denigrate them, go right ahead. Maybe he should ask Putin for help. That seems to be his bestie right now.
Democrats hailed Obama for his stance on Iran, now they hate Trump for doing what they wanted Obama to do.
MAGA, never to be out-Democratted by the Democrats, voted for “no new wars,” and praised the choices of isolationists JD Vance and Tulsi, and now they’re all praising Trump for moving on Iran after trying to steal Greenland, taking Maduro by force using military special forces, and all but telling Cuban leadership their time is about up.
Neither of these insincere, intellectually dishonest jackass parties/groups are different from the other.
In the movie "The Princess Bride," Inigo Montoya (Mandy Patinkin's character) said he spent 20 years searching for the 6-fingered man. Now that this man was dead, Montoya didn't know what to do now. Bill Kristol and others for years have said a nuclear Iran is a threat and its regime must be ended. Their constant messaging has created "clicks" on their outlets generating money for them. Now that the Trump administration has done what they have championed, they don't know what to do now. Montoya was offered the opportunity to become the next Dread Pirate Roberts. What roles are Kristol and the others going to take?
Bravo!!!
So much of this is reducible to Orange Man Bad. And that which isn't is basically the same old same old Marxist Omnicause crap about "colonization", or commie symps that pulled that same "peace" crap in the 80s that was funded by the Commie Party of the Soviet Union.
The intersectionality stack rank ruins everything. IDGAF if someone thinks attacking Iran is "punching down".
Unless someone is a long-time isolationist libertarian who has long thought Fortress America should stay out of the rest of the world, I'm not taking them seriously.
I have emerged for a moment from my Lenten social media exile, (forgive me Lord) to say that I had a Persian boyfriend for 4 years. He was such a cheater. I dumped him in late 2021 to soon marry my now fabulous, rich, adorable husband. Persian man was such a Trump hater. We were on opposite sides of everything. Why did I hang around? He had a pool. My friends said don't dump him in the summer, we will lose our pool privileges, the steak and the booze. I waited until winter. I wonder what he says now? I celebrate with all those wonderful Iranians who seek peace in their homeland. I remember meeting with a Persian woman, about 4 years ago, in the racks at Macy's at Perimeter, crying with her over her homeland. She was a total stranger and yet, there we stood together in solidarity. I am also one of those crazies who believes that Trump is the Second Coming. Carry on. I return in peace to my social media exile.
Need more like George Will to stand up. It is TDS, I read CNN piece about this "great religious leader", if the Pope was sending out hit squads, was funding terrorists, killing those that disagreed with him, and threatening the rest of the world He would have been stopped long ago. They started the war, they kept it going, they keep funding and causing deaths, takeovers (Hezbollah in Lebanon). They also fund w China most of the misinformation about Israel & USA to our easily brainwashed collage students aging hippies, Trump doing is America 1st protecting our future safety.
I have always loved George Will and appreciate his calling out these idiots that can't ad mit Trump is doing what Obama should have done 14 years ago.
The WORST PART of this note on Trumpenfreude is learning that George Will is 84. Time is fleeting and life is short. Two of my favorite George Will books are Men at Work, and the follow up (though not as good) Bunts. I watched the Morning Meeting earlier. Good job and Melissa represented her party well, too.
I am all for Trump's action against Iran. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. So, securing the border and now taking on Iran. Problem is that we now have to go halfway around clock again before we get to another "right." Perhaps at the next 6 o'clock we will get Trump's common sense derived cure for cancer. And maybe at the next 12 o'clock he will pen the next great American novel, written without the use of any "big words," of course. It is what we will get on all the other o'clocks that I am worried about.
If the only thing he ever does is removing the Iranian mothership from action it will be worth it. Trump has many obvious issues/flaws but as the past tells us so did ever other President. Many have done worse and infact put us where we are today mostly because they refused to take a real stand on something or actually try to something. The snark gets old we already know you hate tariffs so do a lot of folks. If he fails on Iran it will because he is undercut because of constant DTS, politicial BS, and folks that hate Israel.
As with the Planter and George Will, I support the move Trump has made against Iran. I still take issue with how he made it.
You talk about him being flawed like every other President. However, no other President - especially one having majorities in both houses of Congress - has tried to take us to war without at least some effort to get Congress and the American people behind him first.
To those willing to look past our Constitution's clear intent that no one man be able to take us to war, I have already asked how they're going feel when President Newsom unilaterally decides to put the boots of our sons and daughters on the ground in Ukraine. That may not have been the best illustration of my point, so let me ask you this.
If it's OK for Trump to make these decisions on his own, what is it that keeps Trump's next move from being against Greenland?
And he has to handle this one right. Big IF as tp whether he can do that.
For consideration:
“If 84-year-old George Will can recognize what is happening, the thirty-something producers at the news networks of America should be able to as well.”
Unfortunately these “thirty-something” producers have not absorbed (if they have even studied) enough history to create a foundation for reasonable evaluation of current events; therefore, they will have to live 2 or 3 generations to develop a semi-valid basis for analysis.
Most of the MSM were not alive when the Shah of Iran was deposed never seen the chaos and brutality of the Islamist that took over the country where any dissent was crushed and prison or death was the Ayatollah’s response to anyone who opposed him and his mullah. Many in congress were not even born yet when all of this happened . The people of Iran want freedom and hopefully they will have it.
Well said
Kristol has no credibility
Laziness is partly to blame for the group-think. Their talking points come in early each day. Each parrots the other because they all got it from the same source. Original thought is a one-off.
It’s very often Heather Cox Richardson, whom they quote as if she is a goddess of wisdom. And she is so blatantly not that. Her missives are released just after midnight so the squawkers have it first thing in the morning.
Excellent!
I can understand why some people have the urge to oppose anything done by Trump. It is not happenstance that he is so reviled by some beyond the typical partisan rancor. His behavior and ACTIONS make him much more deserving of a prison cell than the Oval Office. I know many on here believe that Obama, or Biden are criminals, but that is just because of the hyper partisan media / projection that you consume that has to demonize the other side. Trump has actually committed serious crimes against the US from his illegal attempts to remain in power after losing an election, to his stealing off classified docs and repeated obstruction of justice, (not even to mention his gigantic corruption in his family's profiting off the office at a truly an unprecedented scale). Trump's continued existence as a major party nominee in 24 and then POTUS again after his truly odious behavior offends me to my core because it is a daily reminder that America is partially broken and likely on borrowed time. If a party can nominate someone like this / they can win then a great many of us no longer care for our democracy and we are now barely hanging on by the decaying scaffolding that our constitution / founders put in place. - I worry about this for our future generations (as much as I do our $40 trillion in debt).
Your point about TDS on both sides is spot on. If I had asked the majority of MAGA 2 years ago whether they supported: tariffs, huge ongoing budget deficits, extreme executive authority including allowing POTUS to set tax policy on a whim, war against Iran, etc. they would have adamantly opposed each of them, yet these same people now go nuts in support of each of them - It's maddening. Basically what I am trying to say is my version of TDS is justified, even patriotic while the other version is truly a deranged mental disorder 😉
I probably agree with Trump on the Iran war (as I give him credit for shutting the border), but it's tough to say (American lives have already been lost which obviously an incredibly steep price). Any war is incredibly costly in terms of lives and spend. The truth is we probably won't know for years the full set of consequences both good and bad from our actions. That won't stop Trump from claiming this to be the greatest military success since Washington and those with TDS on both sides from prematurely declaring it whatever their bias wants it to be. It's just strange to watch the same people who bashed neocons for the last 10 years unknowingly becoming the very thing they once despised.
Mr. Trump committed no crimes in challenging the 2020 presidential elections. Perhaps you have forgotten that Democrats challenged the 2000, 2004, and 2016 presidential elections?
Mr. Trump committed no crimes in taking documents with him after he left The White House. First, the documents were not classified. Second, even if the documents were classified, Mr. Trump was entitled to possess them. Third, the law governing presidential records is NOT a criminal statute.
Mr. Trump never obstructed justice. He has never been charged with that crime, and never credibly accused. That is simply a lie.
You ought to get down on your knees and pray thanks to God that Mr. Trump is President. Because Hillary. Because after Joe Biden was installed (not elected), and his 4 years of failure and decline. Because Kamala.
President Trump is cleaning up messes that have occurred over decades. He is doing the American people's work. What is "odious" is the Trump Derangement Syndrome affecting so many, including you. Because it is a disease of choice. Shame on you for your ingratitude.
I think this is Stephen Miller using a pen name. Same hyperbole and cult worship. Stephen, is it you?
Nope. Don't know the man. I worship God. I am an Episcopalian, not a cult member. And I do not use hyperbole. The facts are good enough.
Well, whoever you are, you are a welcome addition to this comment group. A really nice blend of intellect and MAGA cult nuttiness. You rarely see those qualities together in one person since most MAGAs barely finished high school.
Ha!
Yes Democrats challenged elections in the courts or to the media, but to compare what they did to the scope of Trump's months long illegal campaign to stay in power using his position as POTUS and leader of the Republican party is extremely naive. I'd have no problem with what Trump did if he limited his challenges to the courts. As a lawyer, I'd think you'd understand that we have a whole branch of government dedicated to adjudicating things including election related challenges. But because courts have things like evidentiary standards, Trump could not get any traction on his absurd nonsense so he tried to use the power of his position in several ways to prevent the transfer of power.
A tiny sliver of the ways in which Trump & Co. illegally tried to end democracy in 2020 include: Trying to coerce secretaries of states and governors to throw him the election in their states, listen to the recorded call with Brad Raffensberger below (after Brad refused to go along with the scheme Trump recruited a primary challenger and tried to oust Brad as retribution for not going along).
Recruiting slates of fake electors in several states to fraudulently submit false documents on his behalf attempting to defraud the government, see source docs below.
Pressuring Pence to thrown out the electoral college and unilaterally make him President, hear Pence discuss this directly below. Also, Trump sat on his hands for 4 hours while a mob roamed the capital with zipties trying to hang Pence
Trumps full audio call with Raffensberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhBxg17QqZ4
Fake electors submissions: https://www.archives.gov/foia/2020-presidential-election-unofficial-certificates
Giuliani admitting in court filing that he made false statements about Ruby Freeman (which formed the basis for much of Trumps coercing of Raffensberger in audio above): https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.84.2.pdf
Pence directly on what Trump tried to get him to do (you make your own judgement on who has a better reputation for honesty between Pence and Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tglap7tGwHg
On the FL docs case I have a question for you - have you even read the indictments? If the docs were no longer classified where can I review them? (its been years since they were supposedly declassified and Trump's own admin is back in power now so why is my foia request being ignored?
Also, on the obstruction of justice I simply direct you to look at the cooperation of his Mar A Lago IT person Yuscil Taveras (Trump Employee 4) and messages between his staff of idiots in cited in the court document below. This was after Taveras dropped the Trump paid lawyer and got his own to free him to tell about Trump's wanton lawlessness in obstructing justice in the FL docs case.
https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf
Yes in a perfect world Trump would have been prosecuted for his many crimes and thus had his chance to defend himself however pathetically in court. That doesn't stop me from reviewing the facts / cases, applying a modicum of common sense and seeing that the guy is a criminal.
You have not reviewed the facts, or applied any common sense. Mr. Trump is not a criminal. But you are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
There was nothing wrong or illegal in the telephone call to Brad Raffensberger.
"Fake electors" are not illegal. They have been employed many times in history, most recently (before 2020) by John Kennedy in Hawaii. A "fake elector" is simply an alternative elector who becomes an actual elector if the first actual elector is disqualified.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence disagreed on the options available to the Vice-President when it came to elector challenges. There are reasonable substantive arguments on both sides. Nothing illegal or improper here.
I repeat; Mr. Trump has never been charged with, or credibly accused of, obstruction of justice. Another lawyer's opinion does not change the facts.
Yes, I have read the indictments. And they are all gone, never to be adjudicated. Because the Biden Justice Department overreached, and illegally weaponized the Justice Department to go after a political enemy.
Finally, contrary to your belief, the courts are a 3rd branch of government, co-equal, but not supreme. You can pursue court remedies, but that does not prevent the President or Congress from using their own remedies to solve a problem. The court is not the final say in all instances.
Glen - when you say something like this "I repeat; Mr. Trump has never been charged with, or credibly accused of, obstruction of justice." it reveals that despite your claims above - you have not in fact actually read the indictments.
Anyone that claims to have reviewed the mountain of evidence against Trump (mainly gathered from his allies) that comes away thinking Trump is absolved either didn't actually review it or is the one who has TDS themself
Wrong. I know the law. And the facts. And Mr. Trump committed no crimes.
Glen - As I demonstrated above you have not even read the indictments against Trump (despite your claiming to have done so) so I assume you also have very little grasp of any of the facts of the cases (as your arguments have shown).
The bottom line is that you seem to have unknowingly stepped into the ring here with Muhammad A-Blair of Substack comment board debate and have had the floor wiped with your arguments. No shame in losing to one of the Greats....
Something you have to understand about Glen is that as a criminal defense attorney he spends his entire day looking for whatever technicality, uncrossed t, undotted i, or "glove that does not fit" in order to keep his even most obviously guilty "clients" out of jail. We see these guys on the court steps all the time flat out lying about how their bloody handed clients are innocent as the driven snow or victims of some kind of "witch hunt" (sound familiar?) Defending the indefensible is really his job, and a challenge that he obviously takes to heart. This is why he is so obsessed with defending the Dear Leader.
I do not lie.
So says Glen, a CRIMINAL defense attorney. The joke writes itself.
Based on what I've read from Glen so far I actually think he may have done better than many of the bozos (Powel, Giulani, Ellis) that Trump recruited for his ridiculous cases
- he's got the passion for it - I'll give him that.
Only way I would want him as my lawyer is if I were in fact guilty.
That is rather short sighted. An innocent man needs a good lawyer far more than does a guilty man.
Indeed. Had Trump had Glen, he might not be a convicted felon right now.
Yes with Trump it's a weird form of deranged logic. In the Fl docs case and DC prosecution, because he was not criminally convicted, he did nothing wrong, but in the NY case his felony conviction is bogus because ya know even courts get it wrong. Basically as long as the result is Trump did nothing wrong than I agree with it.
Thank you. I have a passion for the law. Not clients or causes. The law, and the Constitution.
To paraphrase one of Trump's famous lines: I really don't think lawyers who keep criminals out of jail are heroes. I prefer the ones who put criminals in jail.
Yes. The jokes on you.
That would be "joke's". Proper spellings and punctuations are important for lawyers. You don't want to be hung by a comma.
You meant "apostrophe," right? Don't hang yourself, SP.
Last time I checked an apostrophe is considered to be a punctuation mark. But, in rereading, I did notice that I should have used "hanged" rather than "hung." Hanged being a form of execution while hung is just a descriptor of... well, you know. But at least I caught myself before you caught me. ;)
Our NATO allies are being less than helpful in operations against Iran. Spain denied the U.S. permission to use its airbases to launch attacks against Iran. Turkey lamented Ayatollah Khamenei's death, and insisted that no NATO bases in that country would be used against Iran. The surrender monkeys in France called for the cessation of hostilities. Great Britain initially denied the U.S. use of airbases on British territory, but finally relented, reluctantly, and only after an Iranian drone strike on a Royal Air Force base in Cyprus. Oh, how wonderful are our NATO allies whom we have defended for 81 years.
We've spent a year denigrating our NATO allies and flat said we might not be there for them if Russia attacks them. France probably remembers being called surrender Monkeys when they refused to aid in the Iraq War as well. They were vindicated in not getting involved in that war. Especially after Trump diminished the sacrifices of the countries that did get involved last year saying "they stayed near the rear".
Try going to church and denigrating the Deacon board and see how they respond to your future requests.
NATO owes the United States. Especially France--and they are surrender monkeys. But for the United States, in WWI and WWII, German would be that country's national language. They are ungrateful, cowardly, and weak. Hell, their national soccer team relies on Africans to even field a mildly competitive team.
The "ugly American" speaks.
Gratitude has a short shelf life in international relations. Without France's help in Revolutionary War we may not have been able to beat England. Yet in the next war between England and France we sided with England. (On commerce mostly) but we didn't help France. They felt like we should have.
Get over it.
We sided with England against the radical Jacobins of the French Revolution.
Again, since 1917, we have pulled France's chestnuts out of the fire while their army fled in fear. Since the end of WWII, we have enabled their socialist excesses while protecting them from the Soviet Union.
France (and all of NATO) owes us. The French are ungrateful, cowardly, cheese nibbling surrender monkeys. I do not have to get over it.
But they do grow some damn good wine. And their beaches are much more "scenic" than those in 'Merica. That's good for something, isn't it?
What? Tell me you ain’t been to Myrtle?
Of course you don't. It would just be better for you if you did. Trump has spent a year talking down to our allies and sucking up to Putin. Now y'all seem surprised that our allies don't won't stand by us. That's not the way life works.
But if it makes you feel better to denigrate them, go right ahead. Maybe he should ask Putin for help. That seems to be his bestie right now.
Mr. Trump does not suck up to Putin. He is just smart enough not to be openly hostile to him.
But Mr. Trump has done far more to help Ukraine that did Obama and Biden. FAR MORE.
And notice that Russia invaded Ukraine under Obama, and then again under Biden. While Trump was President? NOPE!
Our "allies" suck. Badly. If the United States left NATO, NATO would not exist. And nothing credible would take its place.
Democrats hailed Obama for his stance on Iran, now they hate Trump for doing what they wanted Obama to do.
MAGA, never to be out-Democratted by the Democrats, voted for “no new wars,” and praised the choices of isolationists JD Vance and Tulsi, and now they’re all praising Trump for moving on Iran after trying to steal Greenland, taking Maduro by force using military special forces, and all but telling Cuban leadership their time is about up.
Neither of these insincere, intellectually dishonest jackass parties/groups are different from the other.