I will not waste my time convincing Democrats that indicting Trump is a bad idea. They are so convinced of the righteousness of the cause there is no point explaining to them that they’ve just opened their own candidates to future indictments. Republicans yesterday, before the indictment news broke, were busy laying out their case that Joe Biden had taken bribes. If he loses in 2024, he better lawyer up. So too should Hunter Biden.
This is the political equivalent of one of those nature shows, where a pack of hyenas nip and bite and chase the much larger, stronger lion until he's weekend so much the pack finally overwhelms and kills him.
"When the press demand to know if you’ll pardon Trump, smile with a twinkle in your eye, look straight into the camera, and say, “Elect me and find out.”"
Trump's bungling always magically ends with him - like a cat - on his feet. At some level he intentionally left behind the seeds of his indictment and conviction - because it will force everyone to the right of Mitt Romney to fall in behind him.
IOW, he doesn't care that he dared his enemies to cross the Rubicon, that he is fomenting civil war, he cares only for himself. It would be the same as if Lincoln said to himself, "I'll provoke a civil war, it will help me get re-elected"
The Left's claim will be that Republicans could have prosecuted HRC when they held the keys to the kingdom after 2016. That's right but they don't get a pass on not being as outraged about her behavior as they are for DJT's. This isn't about justice. It's about revenge. They've set the precedent so let's use it. HRC goes to jail as soon as we hold the keys to the kingdom again. Biden, all the Biden's, go to jail too. Everyone. Impeach Garland and Wray immediately. Start investigating every single democrat involved in anything from 2016 to current. As soon as we have the DOJ with our leadership again, clean house and start inditing people. Do it you spineless republicans. Do it.
There is just one problem with your little plan for revenge. Neither any administration nor any iteration of the Justice Department decides to send anyone to jail. Juries do that.
If Trump did nothing wrong, he'll be acquitted. If on the other hand he broke the law, he is supposed to be held accountable, as should Biden, Hillary or anyone else.
I am all over the place on this one. So many ifs, could it be, and maybes. Could it be the dems are so diabolically manipulative that they Want Trump as the candidate because they think they can beat him like they did in 2020? Things they used previously to sway borderline voters and get Biden elected have been disproven, although you wouldn’t know that if you listen to MSN. So they bring in all these piddling charges so his supporters will rally around him, even those who were considering voting for an alternative in the primary. He will then be the Republican candidate and they will throw mud again, and just like 2020, queasy voters who can’t abide his behavior or his attitude or something he says will either not vote at all or vote for Biden. It worked once so why not again?
So many people either refuse to see what he was doing while President that was helping our country or they were hypnotized by the continual drum beat to fall under the spell of “Orange Man Bad”. You have to wake up! Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to put themselves and shut the entire work down to remove him. Now they hunt him to the ends of the earth because they know if he comes back he’s going to try and shut it all down. EVERYTHING they have accused him of they are currently doing. You can only be under the spell for so long. They will continue to get away with everything they are doing (indeed you are empowering them) if you choose to be the one who accepts it. January 6, Russian Fake Dossier, Impeachments, FBI scandals - will you be able to explain away a JFK? China now investing heavily in Cuba to be on our open borders... if we don’t get Trump back - it’s over. However they play for keeps. Rather then Trump willing they will DESTROY the United States freedoms (something Biden is desperately working to do) BEFORE Trump comes back. Always remember July 4. Independence Day. It is coming again.
Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to put themselves and shut the entire work down to remove him =
Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to out themselves and shut the entire world down to try and stop him
WOW. And the DOJ just leaked, to CBS, even before the indictment is unsealed, a video (supposedly in evidence) that has Trump explaining that he knew he did not have the authority to declassify. Is there any doubt that the DOJ and the DNC and the leftie Press are all working on the same script?
People should go to jail for even leaking the contents of a sealed indictment.
All is well, all is well, as long as you never ever believe any journalist, and as long as you never ever speak to an FBI agent anywhere.
Gloves are forever off. I will now require that any candidate I support will pledge to investigate their losing opponent. It's a shame but this is what America has devolved to.
The left gets no moral high ground ever again. Ever on any subject. HRC never prosecuted. Jan 6 was the same as Wisconsin and everywhere else they stormed capitals, and they elected a man who admitted on video doing what they impeached a sitting president for. I have no sympathy for them on anything again. They let the genie out of the bottle. Let's use it like they are. FIne.
There once was a time when people generally accepted the results or our elections. They may not have liked the outcome, but they accepted it, went to bed, got up in the morning, and went to work the next day. That all ended in the aftermath of the 2000 election when Al Gore just *HAD* to fight it in court. Every election which followed saw cries of "fraud" from the losing side, and it only keeps getting worse with each election. People don't trust the integrity of elections anymore, and you can thank the Algore for that. For all of Nixon's flaws, at least he had the sense to realize how damaging it would be to the country if he were to try and contest the 1960 election...
Erick, while your first option is reasonable, it'd require a candidate who possesses both courage and honor to execute. Do we have such a candidate? Please see Robert Lamb's comment, below.
Members of the Democrat party have, in their "progressive" march, done very little that is logical. And, at least in the past 65 or so years, nothing they have said or done comes to mind that one could point to and say "that was good for the United States of America." So, why would we expect even a sliver of logic from them to prevail now? And the lock-step (I hate that term) media will totally support their every effort and vilify anyone who disagrees with them.
No one is Above the Democrats twisted rules of Law.Especially if you can coherently speak and walk without falling as you are then a threat to their candidate.
None of the Keebler elves (as Bannon calls them) has the potential to get the 74* million votes Trump received. The most by the way of any sitting President in history. Couple that fact with the Democrat ballot harvesting machine not going anywhere and Republicans are staring at a loss of epic proportion. At some level the overwhelming majority of Americans know DC needs to be torn down and rebuilt and there is only one true builder in the race - Donald J. Trump.
Democrats are fully engaged in using criminal law to attack Republican politicians. Given this precedent, the Republicans will now use criminal law to attack Democrats(?) Once again you are endlessly supportive of a Republican Party that will DO NO SUCH THING. History has shown us that over and over and over and over again …. Yeah, the Republicans will fight just as hard to convict Joe Biden as they did to fight his debt ceiling. Don’t hold your breath. In fact, the closest you are to correct is that at least Trump may seek revenge on the Democrats. But there again, Trump screamed “LOCK HER UP” endlessly and never did a damn thing to convict Hillary. So once again Erick, stop expecting the Republican Party - even Trump - to do what t(he)y never will. Believing what you do, Lucy the Republican will pull away the football, and you will wind up flat on your back for the fortieth time. How many times will you get butt-hurt before you learn that Republicans are politicians, and as such, they are not (y)our friends ….
I want to disagree with you Robert, but I'm afraid you're right. McCarthy is a creature of the establishment. I don't think the majority of the R's in the House or Senate have a desire to play the game by the Dem rules. I wish they'd roll up their sleeves and start punching back at the same rate and power the Dems punch at, but it'll never happen. Sad really.
Interesting comments that make for good reading, but you too are looking at the shiny object.
This is all unnecessary and timing is very suspect. However, I see no mention of ole Joe, possible DOJ corruption, or any “ how to get our country back” discussion.
Talk about impulse control …. You can’t contain your Trump shots….that’s where you start to lose me!
Its simple. If trump wins the nomination we lose. Republicans lose the country loses and if Biden wins another term there will no longer be a United states in the form it is now. Nor will there ever be another election. The reason I say that?
Dems will use the excuse of stop trump at all costs to rig every single voting scheme possible.
Bags and bags of mail in ballots arriving in the middle of the night. Nobody would believe that against a guy like Desantis, but Trump? Even if proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was Fraud. Dems would still get away with it. All with the mantra "It was our patriotic duty.." and the media will cover for them hand and foot.
My point is not to drum up some theory of election stealing or fraud. its to highlight that Dems will do anything to stop trump and the problem and difference between him and Desantis is that they can get away with it with Trump because of their vile disdain for beating Hitlery.
So with that point, I am saying If trump gets the nomination, its over and there is no win in that scenario.
But I also Blame the GOP. Its THEIR party! If they don't want Trump then don't have him. Use super delegates, or change the process. Its like complaining about a rude party crasher at your house who wont leave. Its your house, make him leave or better yet, don't invite him at all.
I do not want Trump to win, but after 4 years of Sniffy as president I'm not certain Trump loses this time. Especially if we are in a recession AND China is in a threatening posture vs Taiwan. ESPECIALLY, especially if Biden has to debate him in public without the help of a teleprompter. I'm willing to bet Biden never makes the general and we see RFK Jr. or Newsom take over.
This is the political equivalent of one of those nature shows, where a pack of hyenas nip and bite and chase the much larger, stronger lion until he's weekend so much the pack finally overwhelms and kills him.
"When the press demand to know if you’ll pardon Trump, smile with a twinkle in your eye, look straight into the camera, and say, “Elect me and find out.”"
Or use Biden's line... "Watch me."
Trump's bungling always magically ends with him - like a cat - on his feet. At some level he intentionally left behind the seeds of his indictment and conviction - because it will force everyone to the right of Mitt Romney to fall in behind him.
IOW, he doesn't care that he dared his enemies to cross the Rubicon, that he is fomenting civil war, he cares only for himself. It would be the same as if Lincoln said to himself, "I'll provoke a civil war, it will help me get re-elected"
Dear Dems, thanks for moving millions of independent votes to Trump. Trump 2024!
The Left's claim will be that Republicans could have prosecuted HRC when they held the keys to the kingdom after 2016. That's right but they don't get a pass on not being as outraged about her behavior as they are for DJT's. This isn't about justice. It's about revenge. They've set the precedent so let's use it. HRC goes to jail as soon as we hold the keys to the kingdom again. Biden, all the Biden's, go to jail too. Everyone. Impeach Garland and Wray immediately. Start investigating every single democrat involved in anything from 2016 to current. As soon as we have the DOJ with our leadership again, clean house and start inditing people. Do it you spineless republicans. Do it.
There is just one problem with your little plan for revenge. Neither any administration nor any iteration of the Justice Department decides to send anyone to jail. Juries do that.
If Trump did nothing wrong, he'll be acquitted. If on the other hand he broke the law, he is supposed to be held accountable, as should Biden, Hillary or anyone else.
I am all over the place on this one. So many ifs, could it be, and maybes. Could it be the dems are so diabolically manipulative that they Want Trump as the candidate because they think they can beat him like they did in 2020? Things they used previously to sway borderline voters and get Biden elected have been disproven, although you wouldn’t know that if you listen to MSN. So they bring in all these piddling charges so his supporters will rally around him, even those who were considering voting for an alternative in the primary. He will then be the Republican candidate and they will throw mud again, and just like 2020, queasy voters who can’t abide his behavior or his attitude or something he says will either not vote at all or vote for Biden. It worked once so why not again?
So many people either refuse to see what he was doing while President that was helping our country or they were hypnotized by the continual drum beat to fall under the spell of “Orange Man Bad”. You have to wake up! Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to put themselves and shut the entire work down to remove him. Now they hunt him to the ends of the earth because they know if he comes back he’s going to try and shut it all down. EVERYTHING they have accused him of they are currently doing. You can only be under the spell for so long. They will continue to get away with everything they are doing (indeed you are empowering them) if you choose to be the one who accepts it. January 6, Russian Fake Dossier, Impeachments, FBI scandals - will you be able to explain away a JFK? China now investing heavily in Cuba to be on our open borders... if we don’t get Trump back - it’s over. However they play for keeps. Rather then Trump willing they will DESTROY the United States freedoms (something Biden is desperately working to do) BEFORE Trump comes back. Always remember July 4. Independence Day. It is coming again.
Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to put themselves and shut the entire work down to remove him =
Trump was good for our Country and was so effective at reversing the Global Elite plan that they literally had to out themselves and shut the entire world down to try and stop him
WOW. And the DOJ just leaked, to CBS, even before the indictment is unsealed, a video (supposedly in evidence) that has Trump explaining that he knew he did not have the authority to declassify. Is there any doubt that the DOJ and the DNC and the leftie Press are all working on the same script?
People should go to jail for even leaking the contents of a sealed indictment.
All is well, all is well, as long as you never ever believe any journalist, and as long as you never ever speak to an FBI agent anywhere.
Gloves are forever off. I will now require that any candidate I support will pledge to investigate their losing opponent. It's a shame but this is what America has devolved to.
Cheers
The left gets no moral high ground ever again. Ever on any subject. HRC never prosecuted. Jan 6 was the same as Wisconsin and everywhere else they stormed capitals, and they elected a man who admitted on video doing what they impeached a sitting president for. I have no sympathy for them on anything again. They let the genie out of the bottle. Let's use it like they are. FIne.
There once was a time when people generally accepted the results or our elections. They may not have liked the outcome, but they accepted it, went to bed, got up in the morning, and went to work the next day. That all ended in the aftermath of the 2000 election when Al Gore just *HAD* to fight it in court. Every election which followed saw cries of "fraud" from the losing side, and it only keeps getting worse with each election. People don't trust the integrity of elections anymore, and you can thank the Algore for that. For all of Nixon's flaws, at least he had the sense to realize how damaging it would be to the country if he were to try and contest the 1960 election...
Erick, while your first option is reasonable, it'd require a candidate who possesses both courage and honor to execute. Do we have such a candidate? Please see Robert Lamb's comment, below.
Members of the Democrat party have, in their "progressive" march, done very little that is logical. And, at least in the past 65 or so years, nothing they have said or done comes to mind that one could point to and say "that was good for the United States of America." So, why would we expect even a sliver of logic from them to prevail now? And the lock-step (I hate that term) media will totally support their every effort and vilify anyone who disagrees with them.
No one is Above the Democrats twisted rules of Law.Especially if you can coherently speak and walk without falling as you are then a threat to their candidate.
None of the Keebler elves (as Bannon calls them) has the potential to get the 74* million votes Trump received. The most by the way of any sitting President in history. Couple that fact with the Democrat ballot harvesting machine not going anywhere and Republicans are staring at a loss of epic proportion. At some level the overwhelming majority of Americans know DC needs to be torn down and rebuilt and there is only one true builder in the race - Donald J. Trump.
Democrats are fully engaged in using criminal law to attack Republican politicians. Given this precedent, the Republicans will now use criminal law to attack Democrats(?) Once again you are endlessly supportive of a Republican Party that will DO NO SUCH THING. History has shown us that over and over and over and over again …. Yeah, the Republicans will fight just as hard to convict Joe Biden as they did to fight his debt ceiling. Don’t hold your breath. In fact, the closest you are to correct is that at least Trump may seek revenge on the Democrats. But there again, Trump screamed “LOCK HER UP” endlessly and never did a damn thing to convict Hillary. So once again Erick, stop expecting the Republican Party - even Trump - to do what t(he)y never will. Believing what you do, Lucy the Republican will pull away the football, and you will wind up flat on your back for the fortieth time. How many times will you get butt-hurt before you learn that Republicans are politicians, and as such, they are not (y)our friends ….
I want to disagree with you Robert, but I'm afraid you're right. McCarthy is a creature of the establishment. I don't think the majority of the R's in the House or Senate have a desire to play the game by the Dem rules. I wish they'd roll up their sleeves and start punching back at the same rate and power the Dems punch at, but it'll never happen. Sad really.
Interesting comments that make for good reading, but you too are looking at the shiny object.
This is all unnecessary and timing is very suspect. However, I see no mention of ole Joe, possible DOJ corruption, or any “ how to get our country back” discussion.
Talk about impulse control …. You can’t contain your Trump shots….that’s where you start to lose me!
Its simple. If trump wins the nomination we lose. Republicans lose the country loses and if Biden wins another term there will no longer be a United states in the form it is now. Nor will there ever be another election. The reason I say that?
Dems will use the excuse of stop trump at all costs to rig every single voting scheme possible.
Bags and bags of mail in ballots arriving in the middle of the night. Nobody would believe that against a guy like Desantis, but Trump? Even if proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was Fraud. Dems would still get away with it. All with the mantra "It was our patriotic duty.." and the media will cover for them hand and foot.
My point is not to drum up some theory of election stealing or fraud. its to highlight that Dems will do anything to stop trump and the problem and difference between him and Desantis is that they can get away with it with Trump because of their vile disdain for beating Hitlery.
So with that point, I am saying If trump gets the nomination, its over and there is no win in that scenario.
But I also Blame the GOP. Its THEIR party! If they don't want Trump then don't have him. Use super delegates, or change the process. Its like complaining about a rude party crasher at your house who wont leave. Its your house, make him leave or better yet, don't invite him at all.
I do not want Trump to win, but after 4 years of Sniffy as president I'm not certain Trump loses this time. Especially if we are in a recession AND China is in a threatening posture vs Taiwan. ESPECIALLY, especially if Biden has to debate him in public without the help of a teleprompter. I'm willing to bet Biden never makes the general and we see RFK Jr. or Newsom take over.