Before the June 27th presidential debate, mainstream media outlets and nearly every member of the Democratic Party expected you to believe that Joe Biden was perfectly fine.
People check all the time and there have been a bunch of studies / audits of elections to see just how many illegals, dead people, etc. vote.
Its a de minimus amount. Not that you'd believe "them" anyway. Trump says cheating is rampant so cheating must be rampant. - pretty much sums up the "conservative movement" these days.
I think it beyond dispute that the Heritage Foundation is a pretty conservative organization. Indeed, Project 25 was developed under its auspices. It found a grand total of 24 election fraud charges brought against non-citizens between 2003 and 2023.
And besides, I don't know whom would be the most stupid: (a) someone who would risk deportation in order to add just one more vote to a preferred candidate's total, or (b) anyone who believes that large numbers of people would be that stupid.
Add the "problem" of illegal immigrants voting to the long list of lies being perpetrated by Republicans.
Depends on the education of the individual. I would say the majority don’t know about our voting laws and how a fraudulent vote would affect their residency in the USA. But you can bet Republicans would be ostracized for looking at voting records.
Was in a conversation with a gay married man that is a friend telling me that he is voting for Harris. Knowing him I said "oh, so giving up on the meritocracy and embracing DEI?" He said, "no but Project 2025 includes reversing gay marriage." I said: "there is a good suspicion that Project 2025 was done by the political establishment uniparty to give people like you reasons to vote for Harris as she is a puppet of the uniparty.. but that Trump and the vast majority of Republicans don't have any interest to turn back gay marriage." I said, consider that your emotions on this issue that is important to you has been manipulated by the political establishment. They told us all over and over again that Joe Biden was fit and healthy. Why would you trust anything they say?
He is a smart dude, and he admitted that he did not know that Trump did not support Project 2025.
They are lying so much and so brazenly that they are capturing even the smart dudes. Just think of all the non-smart dudes that get influenced.
I haven’t read project 2025 (probably should to counter the lies about it). Is there something in there about ending gay marriage? The lies about everything are ridiculous.
So this is it, huh? The SAVE ACT is going to be the hill we die on in the latest CR fight? Maybe a few hundred illegals vote in every election cycle and this this is what we are going to shut down the government over instead of working to curb our out of control spending? this is what we are going to jeopardize the re-election chances of several of our incumbents over? And when we ultimately cave on this turd sandwich, this is going to be what births the next rigged election conspiracy? what allows Trump to scapegoat Mike Johnson?
There has got to be other ways for Chip to give a nod to the stolen election dumb_ss maga crowd without us running head first into a moronic strategy with very predictable and counterproductive outcomes.
Talk about dumb-assery. Elections in swing states that Biden loaded with illegals are near 50%... it does not take much to push it to Dems... and then your dreams of culling out of control gubm't spending are just dreams.
And you hostility toward Trump supporters is another bit of dumb-assery as without them the GOP is a losing pile of junk that nobody likes.
But let’s just accept that. Even 1 is too many. There should t be any. So yes that’s a hill to die on.
Why?
Because a vote can literally kill. Can be as deadly as a gun.
An uninformed voter who votes on emotion and the wrong party, allows that leader to enact policies that often threaten lives. Like open borders like weak foreign policy. Those things cost lives. And it’s set in stone. Nobody who is not a citizen should vote or should be allowed to vote. A fraudulent ballot should be a swift death sentence. That’s how serious this is.
Had Trump been voted in think how many would still be alive. Like the 13 soldiers.
"An uninformed voter who votes on emotion . . . ."
Believing that "a few million" non-citizens vote makes you quite uninformed, and your view that a fraudulent ballot should be a capital offense sounds pretty emotional to me.
The very conservative Heritage Foundation found just 24 charges that were brought against non-citizens for illegally registering or voting from 2003 to 2023.
Those who will vote for Harris, I hope you keep a diary of all things she implements to make your life better and share it.
If there is no investigation there is no fraud dead people vote illegals vote non residents vote we just don’t know how often because nobody checks
People check all the time and there have been a bunch of studies / audits of elections to see just how many illegals, dead people, etc. vote.
Its a de minimus amount. Not that you'd believe "them" anyway. Trump says cheating is rampant so cheating must be rampant. - pretty much sums up the "conservative movement" these days.
Putin for Harris - that says it all
I think it beyond dispute that the Heritage Foundation is a pretty conservative organization. Indeed, Project 25 was developed under its auspices. It found a grand total of 24 election fraud charges brought against non-citizens between 2003 and 2023.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=citizenship&state=All&year=&case_type=All&fraud_type=All&page=1
And besides, I don't know whom would be the most stupid: (a) someone who would risk deportation in order to add just one more vote to a preferred candidate's total, or (b) anyone who believes that large numbers of people would be that stupid.
Add the "problem" of illegal immigrants voting to the long list of lies being perpetrated by Republicans.
Depends on the education of the individual. I would say the majority don’t know about our voting laws and how a fraudulent vote would affect their residency in the USA. But you can bet Republicans would be ostracized for looking at voting records.
Absolutely
Was in a conversation with a gay married man that is a friend telling me that he is voting for Harris. Knowing him I said "oh, so giving up on the meritocracy and embracing DEI?" He said, "no but Project 2025 includes reversing gay marriage." I said: "there is a good suspicion that Project 2025 was done by the political establishment uniparty to give people like you reasons to vote for Harris as she is a puppet of the uniparty.. but that Trump and the vast majority of Republicans don't have any interest to turn back gay marriage." I said, consider that your emotions on this issue that is important to you has been manipulated by the political establishment. They told us all over and over again that Joe Biden was fit and healthy. Why would you trust anything they say?
He is a smart dude, and he admitted that he did not know that Trump did not support Project 2025.
They are lying so much and so brazenly that they are capturing even the smart dudes. Just think of all the non-smart dudes that get influenced.
Isn't gay marriage regulated by state?
I haven’t read project 2025 (probably should to counter the lies about it). Is there something in there about ending gay marriage? The lies about everything are ridiculous.
So this is it, huh? The SAVE ACT is going to be the hill we die on in the latest CR fight? Maybe a few hundred illegals vote in every election cycle and this this is what we are going to shut down the government over instead of working to curb our out of control spending? this is what we are going to jeopardize the re-election chances of several of our incumbents over? And when we ultimately cave on this turd sandwich, this is going to be what births the next rigged election conspiracy? what allows Trump to scapegoat Mike Johnson?
There has got to be other ways for Chip to give a nod to the stolen election dumb_ss maga crowd without us running head first into a moronic strategy with very predictable and counterproductive outcomes.
Talk about dumb-assery. Elections in swing states that Biden loaded with illegals are near 50%... it does not take much to push it to Dems... and then your dreams of culling out of control gubm't spending are just dreams.
And you hostility toward Trump supporters is another bit of dumb-assery as without them the GOP is a losing pile of junk that nobody likes.
Not a few hundred. More like a few million.
But let’s just accept that. Even 1 is too many. There should t be any. So yes that’s a hill to die on.
Why?
Because a vote can literally kill. Can be as deadly as a gun.
An uninformed voter who votes on emotion and the wrong party, allows that leader to enact policies that often threaten lives. Like open borders like weak foreign policy. Those things cost lives. And it’s set in stone. Nobody who is not a citizen should vote or should be allowed to vote. A fraudulent ballot should be a swift death sentence. That’s how serious this is.
Had Trump been voted in think how many would still be alive. Like the 13 soldiers.
"An uninformed voter who votes on emotion . . . ."
Believing that "a few million" non-citizens vote makes you quite uninformed, and your view that a fraudulent ballot should be a capital offense sounds pretty emotional to me.
The very conservative Heritage Foundation found just 24 charges that were brought against non-citizens for illegally registering or voting from 2003 to 2023.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=citizenship&state=All&year=&case_type=All&fraud_type=All&page=1
Key word “caught”.
Like cockroaches. See one there’s probably 1000 more just like it. The fact that even one was able means 1000’s of not 10’s of thousands probably did.
It should be 0. And that’s the reason for the law.
I came across a term that is so appropriate in describing the MAGA mindset: fact resistant.
The fact that only a small number of actual instances have ever been found can only means that there are thousands more.
Fact resistant.
LoL - the death sentence for a fraudulent ballot, but for someone who tried to defraud the entire US by stealing the presidency - your full support.
You can add the half dozen plus who died as a result of J6th to the list of who'd still be alive as well.
The J 6 half dozen could be another don’t believe your lying eyes. Orchestrated by Democrats.
Wa Wa Wa