So we still do not think this is an embarrassment for our party? Twenty House members, led by Gaetz who has no principles, is holding the party hostage. Two hundred other members plus Trump, Pence, etc want to move forward. The Dems are loving this. A very sad start to the new congress. Thank God for our great Governor’s in Florida, Georgia, Texas, etc.
I note with interest that no one anywhere is decrying all those black men and women who are NOT voting for Donalds (We are in the Us on the sixth vote on C-SPAN) for not supporting the first black man to be speaker of the House. Shouldn't the State-Run Media have already trotted out six pieces on why they are all racist by now? Just asking because that's how they've treated Republicans when they don't support their black people for things. You don't suppose.....you don't suppose those democrats are standing on...on principle do you? (yes that was sarcastic there at the end.)
Today it is 5 votes made with same results no speaker in House of Congress. In some views , alot of us are getting a update of how the process is handled . However when a majority doses not determine the direction of a subject discussed it does not make sense to most folks including me. Trying to understand the reasoning behind this rule has yet to be explained other than rules of our founding fathers which has been made with great wisdom. God please help us 🙏
I agree and I want this to apply to the senate as well quit cramming crap into bills and passing them in the middle of the night.If McCarthy is denied than McConnell must be denied in 2024 we need leadership change period
Hakeem Jeffries needs (roughly) six more votes to win the speakership. If five of the 20 vote for him in the 4th ballot, then tell McCarthy the 6th will flip on the next ballot if he doesn't step aside, I still don't think that would be enough to make McCathy back down.
So 200 people supporting McCarthy should capitulate to 20 people who don’t support him? While I’m not a member of Congress so don’t have a vote (and am not a fan of McCarthy), I question why the majority of Republicans in the House should cave to only 20 Representatives who have a different opinion.
Yesterday I said I was inclined to support McCarthy because Gaetz opposed him. Now that Trump has come out to support McCarthy, I'm reconsidering my position.
I'd like to see Byron Donalds as Speaker. (You know the Legacy Media would ignore the fact that the first African-American Speaker was a Relublican.) I'd even support former Rep. Lee Zeldin for Speaker.
McCarthy seems to think he's entitled to be Speaker just like Hillary though she was entitled to be President.
I'm interested in hearing how you will report on this WHEN McCarthy BECOMES speaker later today? Our republicans are spineless and won't finish what they've started; as noble as it is to try to restore constitutional workings of a functioning government at a slow pace. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm preparing myself for another disappointment as McCarthy gets sworn in and then pay-back will be hell for the 20 or so brave members who tried to stop him. Thanks.
I agree completely that stopping McCarthy's ascent to Speaker is a worthy goal, but that fight certainly loses some credibility when Gaetz is the ringleader. Of course, the other of the loudest whack-a-doodles (MTG) is on McCarthy's side, which may even things out.
Interesting that McCarthy claims he has Trump’s endorsement. I can understand how Trump would appreciate someone who puts their own ego ahead of party and country.
It's ironic that this group of twenty, many of whom lack a moral center, have the moral clarity to want to block Kevin McCarthy. When McCarthy said he has no problem holding the record of the most roll-call votes for Speaker (currently 133), the other 202 members of the Republican caucus should have had an epiphany, "this ain't the right guy for Speaker."
Maybe with a few more embarrassing votes the grumbling will become overpowering, and he'll remove his name from consideration. In the meantime, I have a lot of popcorn.
Most of the media including Fox have become apparatchiks for big government. Laura and Tucker are probably the only true believers in less government in our lives. Fox like the others care about their interests. Not the interests of Americans. Fact that Paul Ryan sits on Murdoch’s board says it all. Here’s hoping McCarthy crashes and burns today. He believes in nothing but the next rung on the ladder.
The general conversation on SM is that this makes us look weak and that the dems always are united. Why does that matter? Answer: it doesn’t.
The dems are United to destroy America. You know the nazis also were united in their cause.
At the founding of our country not everyone thought alike. The convention to write the constitution took weeks to hammer out. It didn’t have them show up one voice acting as king and they all went along. NO.
This country was founded on disagreement and compromises. I say good job to the GOP for standing up and saying NO MORE!!
I disagree with your article and believe that we Republicans are embarrassing ourselves to the Democrats delight. Biggs, Gaetz, etc are not the leaders that I want to follow. McCarthy may not be the right leader for the house but our party has become dysfunctional and lacks effective leadership. Thank God we have some strong Governor’s to work at the state level. The Federal level is a mess.
Actually this is embarrassing for the dems. They for years rubber stamped Nancy Pelosi and feared removing her from speakership as she wasnt the best candidate. Now all of a sudden the republicans want to block a known liberal republican and suddenly it’s embarrassing.
No. The dems are pathetic. Clapping and cheering. In the end McCarthy won’t get the votes and we will have a real conservative as speaker. Not sure how that’s worth cheering about.
No, we are not but we are meant to think we are. This is principled. I'm also interested in knowing your connections to the voices who claim this is embarrassing? If it is just your opinion, that's fine and valid, 100%. What it is not, is an opinion I share. I don't think the majority of conservatives share it either. Washington DC lacks people who will stand on principle. That is what this is: a stand on principle to nominate someone with principles. McCarthy is a K Street hack there to enrich himself. He is not there to represent Americans and get what is best in America's interests. I support someone else if for no other reason than the wailing and gnashing of teeth on K Street right now.
So we still do not think this is an embarrassment for our party? Twenty House members, led by Gaetz who has no principles, is holding the party hostage. Two hundred other members plus Trump, Pence, etc want to move forward. The Dems are loving this. A very sad start to the new congress. Thank God for our great Governor’s in Florida, Georgia, Texas, etc.
I note with interest that no one anywhere is decrying all those black men and women who are NOT voting for Donalds (We are in the Us on the sixth vote on C-SPAN) for not supporting the first black man to be speaker of the House. Shouldn't the State-Run Media have already trotted out six pieces on why they are all racist by now? Just asking because that's how they've treated Republicans when they don't support their black people for things. You don't suppose.....you don't suppose those democrats are standing on...on principle do you? (yes that was sarcastic there at the end.)
Today it is 5 votes made with same results no speaker in House of Congress. In some views , alot of us are getting a update of how the process is handled . However when a majority doses not determine the direction of a subject discussed it does not make sense to most folks including me. Trying to understand the reasoning behind this rule has yet to be explained other than rules of our founding fathers which has been made with great wisdom. God please help us 🙏
I agree and I want this to apply to the senate as well quit cramming crap into bills and passing them in the middle of the night.If McCarthy is denied than McConnell must be denied in 2024 we need leadership change period
Hakeem Jeffries needs (roughly) six more votes to win the speakership. If five of the 20 vote for him in the 4th ballot, then tell McCarthy the 6th will flip on the next ballot if he doesn't step aside, I still don't think that would be enough to make McCathy back down.
So 200 people supporting McCarthy should capitulate to 20 people who don’t support him? While I’m not a member of Congress so don’t have a vote (and am not a fan of McCarthy), I question why the majority of Republicans in the House should cave to only 20 Representatives who have a different opinion.
Point taken.. but why should 200 Republicans cave to McCarthy rather than the voters who said they wanted something other than business as usual?
Yesterday I said I was inclined to support McCarthy because Gaetz opposed him. Now that Trump has come out to support McCarthy, I'm reconsidering my position.
I'd like to see Byron Donalds as Speaker. (You know the Legacy Media would ignore the fact that the first African-American Speaker was a Relublican.) I'd even support former Rep. Lee Zeldin for Speaker.
McCarthy seems to think he's entitled to be Speaker just like Hillary though she was entitled to be President.
Erick,
I'm interested in hearing how you will report on this WHEN McCarthy BECOMES speaker later today? Our republicans are spineless and won't finish what they've started; as noble as it is to try to restore constitutional workings of a functioning government at a slow pace. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm preparing myself for another disappointment as McCarthy gets sworn in and then pay-back will be hell for the 20 or so brave members who tried to stop him. Thanks.
I agree completely that stopping McCarthy's ascent to Speaker is a worthy goal, but that fight certainly loses some credibility when Gaetz is the ringleader. Of course, the other of the loudest whack-a-doodles (MTG) is on McCarthy's side, which may even things out.
Agreed, but then the other whack-a-doodle Bobert is on Gaetz’s side!
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Term limits was something that the Founders didn’t think of. They assumed that people put country first and self last.
Interesting that McCarthy claims he has Trump’s endorsement. I can understand how Trump would appreciate someone who puts their own ego ahead of party and country.
very insightful Thanks
It's ironic that this group of twenty, many of whom lack a moral center, have the moral clarity to want to block Kevin McCarthy. When McCarthy said he has no problem holding the record of the most roll-call votes for Speaker (currently 133), the other 202 members of the Republican caucus should have had an epiphany, "this ain't the right guy for Speaker."
Maybe with a few more embarrassing votes the grumbling will become overpowering, and he'll remove his name from consideration. In the meantime, I have a lot of popcorn.
Most of the media including Fox have become apparatchiks for big government. Laura and Tucker are probably the only true believers in less government in our lives. Fox like the others care about their interests. Not the interests of Americans. Fact that Paul Ryan sits on Murdoch’s board says it all. Here’s hoping McCarthy crashes and burns today. He believes in nothing but the next rung on the ladder.
The general conversation on SM is that this makes us look weak and that the dems always are united. Why does that matter? Answer: it doesn’t.
The dems are United to destroy America. You know the nazis also were united in their cause.
At the founding of our country not everyone thought alike. The convention to write the constitution took weeks to hammer out. It didn’t have them show up one voice acting as king and they all went along. NO.
This country was founded on disagreement and compromises. I say good job to the GOP for standing up and saying NO MORE!!
The voters will take note.
I disagree with your article and believe that we Republicans are embarrassing ourselves to the Democrats delight. Biggs, Gaetz, etc are not the leaders that I want to follow. McCarthy may not be the right leader for the house but our party has become dysfunctional and lacks effective leadership. Thank God we have some strong Governor’s to work at the state level. The Federal level is a mess.
Actually this is embarrassing for the dems. They for years rubber stamped Nancy Pelosi and feared removing her from speakership as she wasnt the best candidate. Now all of a sudden the republicans want to block a known liberal republican and suddenly it’s embarrassing.
No. The dems are pathetic. Clapping and cheering. In the end McCarthy won’t get the votes and we will have a real conservative as speaker. Not sure how that’s worth cheering about.
No, we are not but we are meant to think we are. This is principled. I'm also interested in knowing your connections to the voices who claim this is embarrassing? If it is just your opinion, that's fine and valid, 100%. What it is not, is an opinion I share. I don't think the majority of conservatives share it either. Washington DC lacks people who will stand on principle. That is what this is: a stand on principle to nominate someone with principles. McCarthy is a K Street hack there to enrich himself. He is not there to represent Americans and get what is best in America's interests. I support someone else if for no other reason than the wailing and gnashing of teeth on K Street right now.