RE: "(and why have they been held for months on end without trial)?" In my younger days I attempted to challenge a traffic ticket. Traffic court began at 1:00 pm sharp and I was instructed to be there on time; if I was even a few minutes late, a bench warrant for my arrest would be issued. The officer never showed up for the initial date and was almost 30 minutes late for the second date. At 1:20 on the second date, I protested to the court clerk that I wanted my case dismissed. I was summarily told to SIT DOWN and she moved my file to the bottom of the pile. I was the last case heard that day and it changed the outcome not one iota. I suspect these protesters' files continue to be slipped to the bottom of the pile.
One more time: What happened on January 6th, 2021 was not by any stretch of the imagination an insurrection. If it were, where are the charges pursuant to the Insurrection Act of 1807 against those who illegally entered the Capitol? Why were they merely charged with illegal entry, and other minor charges (and why have they been held for months on end without trial)?
What happened on January 6th was a lawful, legally authorized protest which, due to certain agitators in the crowd - some of whom very possibly may have been FBI agent provocateurs - turned into a riot. It's also true that the Capitol Police and the Sergeant at Arms of the House requested assistance from the Federal Government well in advance of the event, assistance which was denied them by House Speaker Nancy "Comrade" Pelosi. And when President Trump sent all those National Guardsmen to D.C., Pelosi saw to it that they weren't used as had been intended, but were instead deployed as glorified traffic cops. Speaker Pelosi has much to answer for, and the blood of the one person killed in the whole event, an unarmed protester named Ashli Babbit, who was shot in the head by a rogue Capitol Police officer who had no cause to draw his weapon. In fact, the Capitol Police actually INVITED the protesters into the building. All these facts need to be covered up, which, besides fashioning a bloody shirt to wave at Republicans in this year's midterms, is a major mission of Pelosi's kangaroo court of a commission, which lost all credibility when she refused to seat the Republicans chosen by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Reps, Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, and instead chose two committed RINOs in Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
Domestic terrorism and the Democrat Party have a long history together, starting with the Northwest Conspiracy of 1863-1864 which aimed at seeking the de facto secession of Ohio, Illinois, and Indiana as a way of thwarting Lincoln's determination to fully defeat the Confederate States. After the Civil War, Democrats used the Ku Klux Klan as their terrorist arm to prevent freed slaves from exercising their rights as citizens, a state of affairs which remained intact until the 1960s.
None of this will, of course, be considered by Comrade Pelosi's hanging court of a "commission", with its handpicked membership and predetermined conclusion, and with the ability of her Ministry of Propaganda, aka the Great American Leftmedia, to spread the lies far and wide. The only consolation is that the American people are fully on to all this, and the serial lawlessness and utter reckless incompetence of the Harris-Biden administration has made the real threat to the Republic clear for anyone willing to make even a cursory examination of the facts in evidence.
Wow, this was all over the place. Start out with the 1-6 non event and, I agree, they weren't patriots, they were pawns. And you end with enviro terrorist blowing up pipelines. WTF man, who is writing this for you?
Soo let's completely ignore that pelosi, one of the biggest insider traders of all time, turned down request for more security and the FBI or another alphabet agency had infiltrated the groups and probably orchestrated this whole poop show.
I'm sure Erick has access to more videos than us common folk. From what I've seen it sure looks like the "capital police" LET people just walk in. These "police" should be some of the best trained at handling large groups of people but they freaking moved the barriers and opened doors to allow them in.
There were no fights, altercations or shots fired at the initial "breech" by the capital police. That had to be orchestrated. How else do you explain it?
I totally agree it was a bad look and those people should not have done what they did. But I still have to wonder why there was such a lack of security at the Capitol that day. I had been hearing callers on Rush's show for weeks talking about going there on 1/6, and it seemed apparent that there was going to be a huge showing of people. Shouldn't part of the 1/6 Commission's investigation be to learn why there was such a lack of security, especially in light of the Speaker's refusal of requested extra security? It's almost as if someone wanted and perhaps even enabled this to happen...
So, by not requesting extra security Nancy Pelosi "enabled this to happen"? But Donald Trump's 2 month organized "Stop the Steal" propaganda effort had no affect? Please rethink your argument here. As a conservative you ostensibly believe that individuals should make responsible choices.
No, it is not my argument that Trump had no effect on what happened. It absolutely did and was the genesis of the demonstration. I don't condone Trump's actions at all, and personally I wish he would just go away at this point. I think the party needs to move on from Trump as he will continue to be an albatross going forward. That said, I see what Trump did and the lack of security as two separate, yet related, issues.
A mob is a funny thing. A mob upset about police brutality sees a building with little to no security and decides to loot the place. Bad. Another mob, upset about an election sees the Capitol with light security and decides to storm it and attempt stop a Constitutionally mandated process to finalize said election. I would say this is even worse. Mob A loots a business or a series of businesses. Mob B attempts to usurp (loot) the republic.
Sorry, I left "Stop the Steal" unsaid but assumed. That opened the door for enabling or allowing this to happen. And personal responsibility?? I seem to remember that, but it's been several generations since it's been taught.
What January 6 revealed is the fragility of our Electoral College process. The Republicans are trying to lay the groundwork for a second attempt. And the Democrats as you note would use the same cracks in our system to their advantage should the opportunity arise. So, why isn't congress resolving the ambiguities of the Electoral Count Act of 1887 to avert its frailty being used by EITHER side??
What you say about the left and their willing accomplices in the media is true, but I have to give the Democrats credit for never having been stupid enough to do something as outrageous as January 6. It may not have been as deadly as the last FALN attack 30 YEARS AGO but setting aside Obama's ill-advised clemency of Oscar Lopez, no Democratic President ever attempted to usurp the peaceful transfer of power.
This is so perfect and so important. Thank you for this. Please give it every avenue you have to get it read more widely. And this is WITH a concussion? Your son may have to bonk your head periodically! Take care, and don't rush things. More on undermining our "democracy":
Finally, for laughs: NYT Letter from Publisher and Executive Editor to readers, 11/13/2016
"...the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team."
Yeah--it was a stupid event. Still wondering why Ray Epps has not been arrested. He was VERY vocal in instigating going to Capitol.
This worked out splendidly for the Left and their Media Industrial Complex. It has been blown WAY out of proportion. This was NOT an Insurrection. You need weapons for that. There were NO weapons used. And shame on the phony Liz Cheney for working with the Left as a useful idiot to obsess over this incident. I hope she goes down in flames in the Primary.
RE: "(and why have they been held for months on end without trial)?" In my younger days I attempted to challenge a traffic ticket. Traffic court began at 1:00 pm sharp and I was instructed to be there on time; if I was even a few minutes late, a bench warrant for my arrest would be issued. The officer never showed up for the initial date and was almost 30 minutes late for the second date. At 1:20 on the second date, I protested to the court clerk that I wanted my case dismissed. I was summarily told to SIT DOWN and she moved my file to the bottom of the pile. I was the last case heard that day and it changed the outcome not one iota. I suspect these protesters' files continue to be slipped to the bottom of the pile.
One more time: What happened on January 6th, 2021 was not by any stretch of the imagination an insurrection. If it were, where are the charges pursuant to the Insurrection Act of 1807 against those who illegally entered the Capitol? Why were they merely charged with illegal entry, and other minor charges (and why have they been held for months on end without trial)?
What happened on January 6th was a lawful, legally authorized protest which, due to certain agitators in the crowd - some of whom very possibly may have been FBI agent provocateurs - turned into a riot. It's also true that the Capitol Police and the Sergeant at Arms of the House requested assistance from the Federal Government well in advance of the event, assistance which was denied them by House Speaker Nancy "Comrade" Pelosi. And when President Trump sent all those National Guardsmen to D.C., Pelosi saw to it that they weren't used as had been intended, but were instead deployed as glorified traffic cops. Speaker Pelosi has much to answer for, and the blood of the one person killed in the whole event, an unarmed protester named Ashli Babbit, who was shot in the head by a rogue Capitol Police officer who had no cause to draw his weapon. In fact, the Capitol Police actually INVITED the protesters into the building. All these facts need to be covered up, which, besides fashioning a bloody shirt to wave at Republicans in this year's midterms, is a major mission of Pelosi's kangaroo court of a commission, which lost all credibility when she refused to seat the Republicans chosen by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Reps, Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, and instead chose two committed RINOs in Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
Domestic terrorism and the Democrat Party have a long history together, starting with the Northwest Conspiracy of 1863-1864 which aimed at seeking the de facto secession of Ohio, Illinois, and Indiana as a way of thwarting Lincoln's determination to fully defeat the Confederate States. After the Civil War, Democrats used the Ku Klux Klan as their terrorist arm to prevent freed slaves from exercising their rights as citizens, a state of affairs which remained intact until the 1960s.
None of this will, of course, be considered by Comrade Pelosi's hanging court of a "commission", with its handpicked membership and predetermined conclusion, and with the ability of her Ministry of Propaganda, aka the Great American Leftmedia, to spread the lies far and wide. The only consolation is that the American people are fully on to all this, and the serial lawlessness and utter reckless incompetence of the Harris-Biden administration has made the real threat to the Republic clear for anyone willing to make even a cursory examination of the facts in evidence.
Wow, this was all over the place. Start out with the 1-6 non event and, I agree, they weren't patriots, they were pawns. And you end with enviro terrorist blowing up pipelines. WTF man, who is writing this for you?
Soo let's completely ignore that pelosi, one of the biggest insider traders of all time, turned down request for more security and the FBI or another alphabet agency had infiltrated the groups and probably orchestrated this whole poop show.
I'm sure Erick has access to more videos than us common folk. From what I've seen it sure looks like the "capital police" LET people just walk in. These "police" should be some of the best trained at handling large groups of people but they freaking moved the barriers and opened doors to allow them in.
There were no fights, altercations or shots fired at the initial "breech" by the capital police. That had to be orchestrated. How else do you explain it?
I totally agree it was a bad look and those people should not have done what they did. But I still have to wonder why there was such a lack of security at the Capitol that day. I had been hearing callers on Rush's show for weeks talking about going there on 1/6, and it seemed apparent that there was going to be a huge showing of people. Shouldn't part of the 1/6 Commission's investigation be to learn why there was such a lack of security, especially in light of the Speaker's refusal of requested extra security? It's almost as if someone wanted and perhaps even enabled this to happen...
So, by not requesting extra security Nancy Pelosi "enabled this to happen"? But Donald Trump's 2 month organized "Stop the Steal" propaganda effort had no affect? Please rethink your argument here. As a conservative you ostensibly believe that individuals should make responsible choices.
No, it is not my argument that Trump had no effect on what happened. It absolutely did and was the genesis of the demonstration. I don't condone Trump's actions at all, and personally I wish he would just go away at this point. I think the party needs to move on from Trump as he will continue to be an albatross going forward. That said, I see what Trump did and the lack of security as two separate, yet related, issues.
That's fair.
A mob is a funny thing. A mob upset about police brutality sees a building with little to no security and decides to loot the place. Bad. Another mob, upset about an election sees the Capitol with light security and decides to storm it and attempt stop a Constitutionally mandated process to finalize said election. I would say this is even worse. Mob A loots a business or a series of businesses. Mob B attempts to usurp (loot) the republic.
Sorry, I left "Stop the Steal" unsaid but assumed. That opened the door for enabling or allowing this to happen. And personal responsibility?? I seem to remember that, but it's been several generations since it's been taught.
True. And that's why conservatism, not Trumpism, needs to survive.
My response was to Cheesefrog.
I've reached an age where I no longer believe in coincidence. IMO, your final sentence nails it.
What January 6 revealed is the fragility of our Electoral College process. The Republicans are trying to lay the groundwork for a second attempt. And the Democrats as you note would use the same cracks in our system to their advantage should the opportunity arise. So, why isn't congress resolving the ambiguities of the Electoral Count Act of 1887 to avert its frailty being used by EITHER side??
What you say about the left and their willing accomplices in the media is true, but I have to give the Democrats credit for never having been stupid enough to do something as outrageous as January 6. It may not have been as deadly as the last FALN attack 30 YEARS AGO but setting aside Obama's ill-advised clemency of Oscar Lopez, no Democratic President ever attempted to usurp the peaceful transfer of power.
This is so perfect and so important. Thank you for this. Please give it every avenue you have to get it read more widely. And this is WITH a concussion? Your son may have to bonk your head periodically! Take care, and don't rush things. More on undermining our "democracy":
How Would the Electoral College Dump Donald Trump? - NYT news opinion https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/opinion/how-would-the-electoral-college-dump-donald-trump.html
Why I Will Not Cast My Electoral Vote for Donald Trump - NYT op-ed
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html
Finally, for laughs: NYT Letter from Publisher and Executive Editor to readers, 11/13/2016
"...the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team."
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/elections/to-our-readers-from-the-publisher-and-executive-editor.html
Yeah--it was a stupid event. Still wondering why Ray Epps has not been arrested. He was VERY vocal in instigating going to Capitol.
This worked out splendidly for the Left and their Media Industrial Complex. It has been blown WAY out of proportion. This was NOT an Insurrection. You need weapons for that. There were NO weapons used. And shame on the phony Liz Cheney for working with the Left as a useful idiot to obsess over this incident. I hope she goes down in flames in the Primary.