You’ve undoubtedly heard that crime is down in a lot of places. One trick often employed in places like San Francisco is not to report crimes. Shoplifting is no longer pursued, and employees of businesses can be fired for preventing shoplifting. So property theft crimes drop not because theft is no longer happening but because it is no longer treated as a crime.
See what happens when you actually crack down on crime?
The same thing happened with New York City. Crime exploded in the 1970's-1980's. The Rudy Giuliani became mayor, and cracked down on crime. NYC was a great place to live for while. Unfortunately, now it's a hellhole again due to lax law enforcement.
My idiot liberal friends were sure that the reason for high black urban crime and high death and incarceration rates where because cops mistreated blacks... and only if cops would be made to back down, the good morals within this victim class would shine through.
The new pivot from these liberal friends, a species that fears being made to admit they are wrong more than they fear death, is that the crime has not increased. That Fox News is lying and in truth the better angels of the black urban communities are flourishing.
And so again my take away is that there is no benefit in debating this liberal species. We only can prevent them from gaining any political power so they cannot make a mess out of everything they touch.
THEY already HAVE the power. Maybe NOT in the total seats in The House and Senate, albeit very close, BUT they definitely have the power in the media, many of the courts, the administrative body, and the White House. We need to wake up to the coming break down of society and be prepared to defend ourselves. I don't like this potential reality anymore than the rest of you, but we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. Not the least of these rights is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. When seconds matter the police are only minutes away. I don't understand why some people want to destroy this once great nation of ours.
A lot of them will inadvertently out themselves by dropping a catchword in. The one that makes my eyes roll the most is how we need to "reimagine" policing. Yeah, right.
I’m not from Georgia but is concealed carry or open carry allowed if so that is also a deterrent . Inforce the law equally and fairly and the results will be most welcome
I live in a neighborhood just north of downtown on the “upper Westside.” Two years ago a neighbor barely a 1/4 mile down the road (whom we did not know) was car jacked in his driveway at 4 am as he was leaving for work and was found dead at a local gas station. There were also a couple of other instances near us that same year where a person was shot randomly while running (on a road with homes that go for $2 million + and a contractor who was also randomly shot and killed in the driveway of the home he was working on. This incident happened just before I unknowingly passed the body on my way to dropping off my daughter at school that morning. I had not thought about moving previously but these incidents certainly made me think about it.
It seems to have gotten better in the last two years. A homeless camp recently set up shop under a bridge on this side. There is a major thoroughfare (Cheshire Bridge Road) that has been closed for extended periods of time in the last two years due to bridges being burned by homeless camps. It was recently closed again for the same reason. The homeless camp under the bridge on this side was quickly swept away by the APD so hopefully they have learned their lesson. I do see a lot more patrols on this side of town now.
That whole “upper Westside” thing is a marketing thing, as I’m sure you know, like “Vinings” extending to Mableton or “Buckhead” covering most north of Midtown. We never heard of “upper Westside” until 5-6 years ago. We live in a neighborhood with a legacy name and I use that. I remember well the shootings on West Wesley and Peachtree Battle. One was a guy having a mental health breakdown (shot the wounded jogger) and the tragic murder was a non local carjacker preying on an unlucky contractor resting in his truck before work. Neither was particularly “Atlanta-centric” to be clear. Off my soapbox now.
Yes. The marketing teams have previously called this area West Midtown and West Buckhead. I guess upper Westside was the one that finally stuck. Our neighborhood is sort of in between the ones with a legacy name, at one point in the distant past rejecting an offer to join one of them for what reason I do not know. I agree that neither one of those incidents was necessarily Atlanta centric but the optics, especially when happening in upper class neighborhoods, is not what the city wants.
Mayor Dickens has been mentored for decades by former mayors Shirley Franklin and Andrew Young. You fail to mention his biggest organizational emphasis since being elected. As I’ve lived in Atlanta my whole life, I was very skeptical when Dickens lead off his first year emphasizing high school student extracurricular jobs and youth programs focused on 14 to 24 year old residents. I watched the mayor make grants to youth sports and mentoring organizations and was puzzled. I forgot how much energy my wife and I invested into our own teenagers and college aged children. Heck, I forgot the 5 years that I volunteered for our neighborhood Scout Troop and 16 years volunteering at our now adult kid’s Christian school. What a hypocrite I was looking skeptically at the Mayor’s emphasis of local youth development. I get it now, simultaneously the mayor did empower working groups of Atlantan’s to induce a study of 2,000 acres of vacant properties that are publicly owned (state, county, board of regents, school system and housing authority). The mayor has identified 2,000 acres!!! of vacant land inside the city. Atlanta is a collection of 243 distinct neighborhoods. Watching the mayor prioritize mentoring of young residents, inducing mixed use residential land development AND having the police’s back in their law enforcement responsibilities has begun to strengthen the whole city. When Governor Kemp helps all Georgia mayors by implementing new practices in addressing citizens experiencing crises with substance abuse and mental health, I believe Georgia can reflect imperfect yet improved flourishing.
Also a major thing is that so many young people are growing up with NO FATHER. Or a Father that does NOT know how to be a good Father. My Father was very caring and loving but STRICT. When I got married and had five children, they all knew that I loved them but I was strict and taught them to be loving caring people but be strict with their Children. We do NOT have that anymore and it is really sad and causes so many problems in todays society that we live in all over the US. Mainly in the cities where over 50% of the Children grow up with NO Fathers. It ain't like is was in the 40's.
I am so glad that I live in rural America. Other than more policing, it's an attitude of being able to get something for nothing, I'm entitled to what you have. If people worked as hard at stealing or scamming at a legitimate wage paying job the whole world would be a much better place. Just sayin'.
Not yet, Erick. We live in Atlanta, droves of young married couples (of all races) are leaving inside the perimeter to move to western and northern suburbs where schools are excellent and crime is low. Our son built a home 5 years ago in a “regenerated” community near Buckhead. The crime is so bad he’s selling the house and moving OTP to northern Fulton county. The statistics claiming a drop in crime inside the perimeter are spun...no way are we feeling it’s better. Atlanta inside the perimeter, run by democrats, has been ruined by democrat policy.
I read something years ago that was good journalism. There was a crime wave in the 1990’s in New York City. It was dangerous to take the subways.
Mayor Denkins said that the subways are safe and he uses them almost every day. A brave reporter reminded him that he travels with a security detail armed with Uzis.
Here in the Democratic People's Republic of Washington State we go first and foremost after the legal and responsible gun owners, tie the hands of the police and leave the real criminals alone. They are generally from underserved communities, don't you know.
Erick, you'll be glad to know that PragerU produced a video featuring Mesha Mainor, the black Democrat who switched parties because of school choice and police funding in Georgia. It's fantastic!
I live in Atlanta. Every morning I watch the news and note the shootings that have happened overnight. It does seem that those shootings which do happen are more personnel beefs, arguments which turn violent, but the robbery's gone bad and attempted car jackings are down. Anecdotal evidence but still noticeable. I hold my breath to see if it is maintained. All these fixes take is a return of another Keisha Lance Bottoms style mayor and these cures will be washed down the drain. Maybe she recognized that she was the problem for the city when she did not run for a second term.
Having lived through the NYC crime wave of the 70s and 80s, the solution that worked then will work just about everywhere today. Crack down on crime. Hold criminals accountable. Let police do their job. Crime pretty much stops. Politicians must want that. If they don’t, then they want crime. It’s that simple. The question is why anyone would want crime. The answer is quite dark.
You get more of what you incentive and less of what you discourage. Apathy incentives. Discouraging policing emboldens criminals.
Crimes are low because they are NOT being recorded.
Why report a crime if it might cause your Insurance Premium to increase.
See what happens when you actually crack down on crime?
The same thing happened with New York City. Crime exploded in the 1970's-1980's. The Rudy Giuliani became mayor, and cracked down on crime. NYC was a great place to live for while. Unfortunately, now it's a hellhole again due to lax law enforcement.
My idiot liberal friends were sure that the reason for high black urban crime and high death and incarceration rates where because cops mistreated blacks... and only if cops would be made to back down, the good morals within this victim class would shine through.
The new pivot from these liberal friends, a species that fears being made to admit they are wrong more than they fear death, is that the crime has not increased. That Fox News is lying and in truth the better angels of the black urban communities are flourishing.
And so again my take away is that there is no benefit in debating this liberal species. We only can prevent them from gaining any political power so they cannot make a mess out of everything they touch.
THEY already HAVE the power. Maybe NOT in the total seats in The House and Senate, albeit very close, BUT they definitely have the power in the media, many of the courts, the administrative body, and the White House. We need to wake up to the coming break down of society and be prepared to defend ourselves. I don't like this potential reality anymore than the rest of you, but we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. Not the least of these rights is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. When seconds matter the police are only minutes away. I don't understand why some people want to destroy this once great nation of ours.
A lot of them will inadvertently out themselves by dropping a catchword in. The one that makes my eyes roll the most is how we need to "reimagine" policing. Yeah, right.
I’m not from Georgia but is concealed carry or open carry allowed if so that is also a deterrent . Inforce the law equally and fairly and the results will be most welcome
We are allowed to conceal carry in Georgia without obtaining a permit. I got a 38 revolver the Mother's Day before last and carry it often.
Thanks
I live in a neighborhood just north of downtown on the “upper Westside.” Two years ago a neighbor barely a 1/4 mile down the road (whom we did not know) was car jacked in his driveway at 4 am as he was leaving for work and was found dead at a local gas station. There were also a couple of other instances near us that same year where a person was shot randomly while running (on a road with homes that go for $2 million + and a contractor who was also randomly shot and killed in the driveway of the home he was working on. This incident happened just before I unknowingly passed the body on my way to dropping off my daughter at school that morning. I had not thought about moving previously but these incidents certainly made me think about it.
It seems to have gotten better in the last two years. A homeless camp recently set up shop under a bridge on this side. There is a major thoroughfare (Cheshire Bridge Road) that has been closed for extended periods of time in the last two years due to bridges being burned by homeless camps. It was recently closed again for the same reason. The homeless camp under the bridge on this side was quickly swept away by the APD so hopefully they have learned their lesson. I do see a lot more patrols on this side of town now.
That whole “upper Westside” thing is a marketing thing, as I’m sure you know, like “Vinings” extending to Mableton or “Buckhead” covering most north of Midtown. We never heard of “upper Westside” until 5-6 years ago. We live in a neighborhood with a legacy name and I use that. I remember well the shootings on West Wesley and Peachtree Battle. One was a guy having a mental health breakdown (shot the wounded jogger) and the tragic murder was a non local carjacker preying on an unlucky contractor resting in his truck before work. Neither was particularly “Atlanta-centric” to be clear. Off my soapbox now.
Yes. The marketing teams have previously called this area West Midtown and West Buckhead. I guess upper Westside was the one that finally stuck. Our neighborhood is sort of in between the ones with a legacy name, at one point in the distant past rejecting an offer to join one of them for what reason I do not know. I agree that neither one of those incidents was necessarily Atlanta centric but the optics, especially when happening in upper class neighborhoods, is not what the city wants.
Mayor Dickens has been mentored for decades by former mayors Shirley Franklin and Andrew Young. You fail to mention his biggest organizational emphasis since being elected. As I’ve lived in Atlanta my whole life, I was very skeptical when Dickens lead off his first year emphasizing high school student extracurricular jobs and youth programs focused on 14 to 24 year old residents. I watched the mayor make grants to youth sports and mentoring organizations and was puzzled. I forgot how much energy my wife and I invested into our own teenagers and college aged children. Heck, I forgot the 5 years that I volunteered for our neighborhood Scout Troop and 16 years volunteering at our now adult kid’s Christian school. What a hypocrite I was looking skeptically at the Mayor’s emphasis of local youth development. I get it now, simultaneously the mayor did empower working groups of Atlantan’s to induce a study of 2,000 acres of vacant properties that are publicly owned (state, county, board of regents, school system and housing authority). The mayor has identified 2,000 acres!!! of vacant land inside the city. Atlanta is a collection of 243 distinct neighborhoods. Watching the mayor prioritize mentoring of young residents, inducing mixed use residential land development AND having the police’s back in their law enforcement responsibilities has begun to strengthen the whole city. When Governor Kemp helps all Georgia mayors by implementing new practices in addressing citizens experiencing crises with substance abuse and mental health, I believe Georgia can reflect imperfect yet improved flourishing.
Also a major thing is that so many young people are growing up with NO FATHER. Or a Father that does NOT know how to be a good Father. My Father was very caring and loving but STRICT. When I got married and had five children, they all knew that I loved them but I was strict and taught them to be loving caring people but be strict with their Children. We do NOT have that anymore and it is really sad and causes so many problems in todays society that we live in all over the US. Mainly in the cities where over 50% of the Children grow up with NO Fathers. It ain't like is was in the 40's.
I am so glad that I live in rural America. Other than more policing, it's an attitude of being able to get something for nothing, I'm entitled to what you have. If people worked as hard at stealing or scamming at a legitimate wage paying job the whole world would be a much better place. Just sayin'.
Not yet, Erick. We live in Atlanta, droves of young married couples (of all races) are leaving inside the perimeter to move to western and northern suburbs where schools are excellent and crime is low. Our son built a home 5 years ago in a “regenerated” community near Buckhead. The crime is so bad he’s selling the house and moving OTP to northern Fulton county. The statistics claiming a drop in crime inside the perimeter are spun...no way are we feeling it’s better. Atlanta inside the perimeter, run by democrats, has been ruined by democrat policy.
I read something years ago that was good journalism. There was a crime wave in the 1990’s in New York City. It was dangerous to take the subways.
Mayor Denkins said that the subways are safe and he uses them almost every day. A brave reporter reminded him that he travels with a security detail armed with Uzis.
Here in the Democratic People's Republic of Washington State we go first and foremost after the legal and responsible gun owners, tie the hands of the police and leave the real criminals alone. They are generally from underserved communities, don't you know.
Just the same here on the East Coast in New Jermany.
Erick, you'll be glad to know that PragerU produced a video featuring Mesha Mainor, the black Democrat who switched parties because of school choice and police funding in Georgia. It's fantastic!
https://www.prageru.com/video/mesha-mainor-i-switched-parties-because-of-my-stance-on-choice
Wow. Powerful video. All should see it.
I agree! Thanks for taking a few minutes to watch it. :)
I live in Atlanta. Every morning I watch the news and note the shootings that have happened overnight. It does seem that those shootings which do happen are more personnel beefs, arguments which turn violent, but the robbery's gone bad and attempted car jackings are down. Anecdotal evidence but still noticeable. I hold my breath to see if it is maintained. All these fixes take is a return of another Keisha Lance Bottoms style mayor and these cures will be washed down the drain. Maybe she recognized that she was the problem for the city when she did not run for a second term.
Having lived through the NYC crime wave of the 70s and 80s, the solution that worked then will work just about everywhere today. Crack down on crime. Hold criminals accountable. Let police do their job. Crime pretty much stops. Politicians must want that. If they don’t, then they want crime. It’s that simple. The question is why anyone would want crime. The answer is quite dark.
Because most of these politicians who are ok with the crime are criminals themselves.
Yup. Or they believe chaos is in their best interest. It’s one of the two. Or both.