When Brian Kemp was forced to implement lockdowns during COVID, he was roundly mocked for raising the concern that children who live with abusive parents would be forced to spend more time around their abusers.
I've read the litany of praise for home schooling' in this thread. I've also read how the closing the schools during the height of the Covid 19 pandemic resulting in forced home school was overall a total disaster both in terms of losing enormous amounts of learning and knowledge capture. as well as socio-cultural skills. How to square that peg!!! Fairly easy: the parents or guardians of the children who are home schooled have the means to do it. Not necessarily financial, but available time and educational level of the tutor (whether parent, relative or hired hand.) But when the economic, socio-cultural or family situation is not going to allow the fulltime supervision of the learning process, then precious little education can take place. Look at the family I was born into. Five children before pampers and non--iron wash'n'dry with last three born 1945,47,48. To keep the house clean the parents hired a maid twice a week while mom toiled in the laundry room two or three days a week, prepared breakfasts and lunches for herself and five children and a hot dinner for seven. Although my parents were very intelligent and well-read besides being educated in the best public school system in America at the time, my mother left school at age 15 to work so she did not have the training to be an effective teacher. Dad was out of the house from six am to six pm five days a week bringing home the bacon. Now fast forward to 2020, there are many more one-parent or two working parent families. How can families like that home school their children successfully?
Erick, when I heard you talk about this on your show, it made me sick. Homeschooling is the last best hope for many parents who care deeply about their children's education. I will always fight for the rights of homeschooling. I am appalled at the lengths government and others will go to to get their hands in our lives. This was never what our founders intended, nor those who have fought through the centuries for our independence and freedom.
This is a common thread that runs thru the country. The more government gets involved in something costs go up and quality goes down. Look at healthcare and education two prime examples.If the government wants to improve education then get out let people decide how best to educate there kids and if home school is there choice so be it. Then get back to basics and educate not indoctrinate.
I used to think that churches were the ultimate social cliques. Turns out, I was wrong... it's public school teachers/administrators. I should know, a bunch of them live on my block. There are also two families on my block who homeschool. They've been told by the educrats that they should be thrown in prison.
Yep, I've been told that and that I was the problem with public schools... uhm, I don't send my kids there, how am I the problem? Well, I did mention that learning math, reading and writing without a computer should be the basis of any quality education.
There is absolutely NO substitute for a book, a piece of paper and a pencil.
My niece has asked me for help with her homework..... yes, she attends public schools and does it on a computer... but when I try to help her, she won't let me see the assignment and suddenly hides the screen so I can't see what she's doing. She says she wants my help, then won't let me actually help her.
Oh well 🙄🙄🙄
Not only should everyone employed by the public sector be required to send their kids to public schools, but I also think that smart phones, tablets, etc and social media should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18.
Of course home schooling in America begins out of necessity in the 17th century when Europeans settling in isolated places had to offer the three R's to their growing children. That tradition has continued and parents should be able to educate their children w/o sending them off to school. However over the last four centuries, the community has gotten more and more involved in assuring minimum norms, initially at the local level. Think Horace Mann https://www.britannica.com/biography/Horace-Mann
The left are mad because there will be children that they will not be able to indoctrinate into their bizzaro mindset in which pronouns and gender are fluid and everyone deserves a pony. Also, they cannot turn those homeschooled kids in to left wing sheep spit out by failing public schools. BTW, the state of public schools is obvious when time and time again we find out those they say you must send your kids to public schools have their kids are in private schools.
I used to love SA. I guess science is another word that we have lost to the wokes. I recommend everyone purchase a physical dictionary that cannot be edited by the Ministry of Truth. The older the better.
My kids have never seen the inside of a school. They have been classically educated at home from the beginning. My oldest is thriving in college in Florida. She started tutoring as a sophomore and edits graduate students’ theses. My background is in math and science, so the fact the she is a good writer just goes to show that you don’t have to be an expert in every subject for your kid to succeed in a homeschool.
The wokes don’t want you to know that you are capable of learning without experts.
Much of the problem is that the "experts" are mostly idiots. I recall sitting at a student center table 55 years ago with a couple of profs, one the head of the Chemistry department (my major) and the other head of the Department of Elementary Education, highly regarded among such programs. That quarter, I was stuck in an econ class with a bunch of teachers working toward their masters degrees. I was appalled at how dumb most were and made a comment. During the conversation, he said something to the effect "If they're too dumb for anything else, they send 'em over to me to make them into teachers." That has stuck with me for all these years. Experience since has shown that most of these people could not make in the real world where they actually had to compete.
I was homeschooled all throughout my elementary, middle school and high school education. To this day I’m eternally grateful to my parents for making that decision and sacrificing so much to do so. One of the things I liked about my homeschooling education was that it taught me how to teach my self and seek out knowledge and learn. This was an especially valuable skill during COVID where by the summer of 2020, I was able to synthesis the data and information I was seeing and correctly identify truths about COVID that “The experts” were telling me were wrong.
For many months, I have been asking my good Jewish friend, why Israel was sending food water and electricity into the Gaza Strip after the people in Gaza participated in and celebrated the October 7th attack on Jews? The best I could determine from his repeated replies was something about doing the "right" thing for innocent people caught in the middle of two warring parties. Then I thought of the million plus Arab Israelis. Maybe if they see Israel try to eliminate the impact of war on the people in Gaza, they will help strengthen the Israeli State by not subscribing to the hatred of the Hamas/Iranian ideology of "death to the Jews" and America--the great Satan--stuff.
I see this in many current socioeconomic movements. For school choice, how many generations of people have been trapped in societies that refuse to provide a basic liberal education focused on providing individuals with the knowledge to pursue life in a free liberal society?
For centuries, the South did not educate their children. Why? The South was a simple agricultural export economy first based on tobacco, then cotton (thanks to the invention of the cotton gin in the 1790s that allowed the profitable production of short staple cotton throughout the South far inland from the low country of the Carolinas where long staple cotton was grown). If you educated a kid, white or black, they immigrated to the industrializing North, Midwest and West. So why spend the money when you are mostly a poor socioeconomic system.
If you look at the demographics, the South experienced a net outmigration of Whites until 1950 and Blacks until the 1980s. The South changed in 1950 because someone invented the mechanical Cotton Stripper. The South no longer needed to have a poor and unskilled agricultural labor force dedicated to picking cotton. Thus, the South went through a renaissance. However, we were still saddled with the centuries of Slavery, Jim Crow and Segregation and needed to change our socio-economic structures.
I mention this all because the public education system in the South has for far too long been considered a public works program--employing vast numbers of educators and administrators delivering a service to a population that no one really cared about (rural and inner-city blacks). Whites were able to flee to the suburbs and better educational systems. But after 70 years of integrating the South into a cohesive socioeconomic system with the industrial North and the emergence of the information society, The South recognizes the need to invest in our human resources. Many wealthy Whites and a growing strong Black Middle Class will no longer accept the mediocre performance and intransience of the public school system. So, the need for reform is evident and that reform is School Choice. Since Wealthy Whites can afford private education, they seem disinterested in reform.
School Choice will reshape the American South because we are a dynamic society seeing vast changes in our infrastructure and economic opportunities. I rent apartments and I see many people immigrate to the Atlanta Area and build much better lives. I am not worried about the South. What I am worried about is the South not being able to withstand the demands of the large grifting operations emanating out of Washington DC that are mostly propagated by the demands of the progressive Left.
I hope this election will give the Nation a chance to break some of these grifting operations and restore greater liberty to the Nation.
I am a fortunate person. I can drive to the Atlanta Airport and and take a direct flight almost anywhere in the world with a direct flight. I have been to a Masai village and to a high Andean community. I have seen many cities throughout Europe, the islands in the Carribean, the islands of the eastern Mediterranean and seen the wonders of Egypt. In all my travels I have found that people are the same. They just want to live a good life while trying to deal with the current structure of the socioeconomic conditions in the community.
School Choice gives our children and their parents a chance to break away from the structures in their community that is constricting their liberty. It will take 30 years for our poorer communities to break free of these constraints. I hope we have the patience and endurance to see it through.
We homeschooled all three of our daughters; two of whom are married now and have children of their own. Some people would ask us about their socialization and I would teach them that we didn’t want to raise them as socialists. And yes, we did teach them the truth about evolution which meant teaching them young earth creation.
Let me say this. The leftist are coming for your children your religion and even you.
Unless you’re a minority( and even then) or someone who cares about the gay agenda they are coming for you.
The threat of abuse at home is real and yes during COVID that ability to monitor it through school was hampered. BUT. Since the left has taken over education the schools have become the abusive centers of America.
Here in ga although technically illegal there is gay porn in elementary schools. Go to Decatur go to any other progressive heck holes in GA and you will find them. Call it TG picture books or whatever. But they are what they are. I would stress to say homeschooling in some areas is the only way to get a decent education.
I used to read Scientific American decades ago. They had articles - often over my head - on weird stuff like physics, astronomy, chemistry, archaeology. Too hard these days I suppose.
Yep. Another RIGHT ON piece. That is why my granddaughter and her husband, with my great-granddaughter moved out of a crime ridden, woke school in the city where they lived, to a wonderful safe totally different school system in Wyoming. The area they lived in had, and still have, a shooting every 24 hours with someone killed. The school was totally out of it about woke.
The government doesn't like it that people are able to escape the ghetto.... so they're working to bring the ghetto to the suburbs. HUD has been forcing low-income housing on more affluent areas since the Clinton administration.
I grew up in a school just like that. But we got good education because of the quality of the teachers. Yes we had bad gang activity and off my class 10 kids didn’t live to see Sr year. But we also had a vast number of kids who went on to places like Ivy League schools and such. Just because it’s a bad area doesn’t mean a bad school.
Homeschool family here. My daughter just graduated summa cum laude from UF and is heading to University of Cambridge for her PhD in chemistry on a very nice, all-inclusive scholarship. She thanks me regularly for homeschooling her. Our school days were very laid back with tons of free time to explore things she was interested in. We got to hang out so much more as a family. We still get obnoxious comments about homeschooling, often from families whose kids are struggling so much in school and would love the opportunity to homeschool but the parents are too critical of it. For so many kids, the typical school environment is the farthest thing from a “safe space” or place to flourish personally, socially, or academically.
I've read the litany of praise for home schooling' in this thread. I've also read how the closing the schools during the height of the Covid 19 pandemic resulting in forced home school was overall a total disaster both in terms of losing enormous amounts of learning and knowledge capture. as well as socio-cultural skills. How to square that peg!!! Fairly easy: the parents or guardians of the children who are home schooled have the means to do it. Not necessarily financial, but available time and educational level of the tutor (whether parent, relative or hired hand.) But when the economic, socio-cultural or family situation is not going to allow the fulltime supervision of the learning process, then precious little education can take place. Look at the family I was born into. Five children before pampers and non--iron wash'n'dry with last three born 1945,47,48. To keep the house clean the parents hired a maid twice a week while mom toiled in the laundry room two or three days a week, prepared breakfasts and lunches for herself and five children and a hot dinner for seven. Although my parents were very intelligent and well-read besides being educated in the best public school system in America at the time, my mother left school at age 15 to work so she did not have the training to be an effective teacher. Dad was out of the house from six am to six pm five days a week bringing home the bacon. Now fast forward to 2020, there are many more one-parent or two working parent families. How can families like that home school their children successfully?
Erick, when I heard you talk about this on your show, it made me sick. Homeschooling is the last best hope for many parents who care deeply about their children's education. I will always fight for the rights of homeschooling. I am appalled at the lengths government and others will go to to get their hands in our lives. This was never what our founders intended, nor those who have fought through the centuries for our independence and freedom.
This is a common thread that runs thru the country. The more government gets involved in something costs go up and quality goes down. Look at healthcare and education two prime examples.If the government wants to improve education then get out let people decide how best to educate there kids and if home school is there choice so be it. Then get back to basics and educate not indoctrinate.
Scientific American lost credibility with most scientists about 25 years ago when they went political.
I used to think that churches were the ultimate social cliques. Turns out, I was wrong... it's public school teachers/administrators. I should know, a bunch of them live on my block. There are also two families on my block who homeschool. They've been told by the educrats that they should be thrown in prison.
Yep, I've been told that and that I was the problem with public schools... uhm, I don't send my kids there, how am I the problem? Well, I did mention that learning math, reading and writing without a computer should be the basis of any quality education.
There is absolutely NO substitute for a book, a piece of paper and a pencil.
My niece has asked me for help with her homework..... yes, she attends public schools and does it on a computer... but when I try to help her, she won't let me see the assignment and suddenly hides the screen so I can't see what she's doing. She says she wants my help, then won't let me actually help her.
Oh well 🙄🙄🙄
Not only should everyone employed by the public sector be required to send their kids to public schools, but I also think that smart phones, tablets, etc and social media should be illegal for anyone under the age of 18.
Of course home schooling in America begins out of necessity in the 17th century when Europeans settling in isolated places had to offer the three R's to their growing children. That tradition has continued and parents should be able to educate their children w/o sending them off to school. However over the last four centuries, the community has gotten more and more involved in assuring minimum norms, initially at the local level. Think Horace Mann https://www.britannica.com/biography/Horace-Mann
Look at ACT, SAT, and other test scores for home schooled children.
The state provides material and curriculum for home schoolers. Many kids are home schooled because the are advanced, distracted by others, disabled,
Crime in area, etc
The left are mad because there will be children that they will not be able to indoctrinate into their bizzaro mindset in which pronouns and gender are fluid and everyone deserves a pony. Also, they cannot turn those homeschooled kids in to left wing sheep spit out by failing public schools. BTW, the state of public schools is obvious when time and time again we find out those they say you must send your kids to public schools have their kids are in private schools.
I used to love SA. I guess science is another word that we have lost to the wokes. I recommend everyone purchase a physical dictionary that cannot be edited by the Ministry of Truth. The older the better.
My kids have never seen the inside of a school. They have been classically educated at home from the beginning. My oldest is thriving in college in Florida. She started tutoring as a sophomore and edits graduate students’ theses. My background is in math and science, so the fact the she is a good writer just goes to show that you don’t have to be an expert in every subject for your kid to succeed in a homeschool.
The wokes don’t want you to know that you are capable of learning without experts.
SA now stands for "Shyt American". And I wouldn't call them experts, they're nothing more than indoctrinators.
Sorry. I should have said so-called “experts.”
Much of the problem is that the "experts" are mostly idiots. I recall sitting at a student center table 55 years ago with a couple of profs, one the head of the Chemistry department (my major) and the other head of the Department of Elementary Education, highly regarded among such programs. That quarter, I was stuck in an econ class with a bunch of teachers working toward their masters degrees. I was appalled at how dumb most were and made a comment. During the conversation, he said something to the effect "If they're too dumb for anything else, they send 'em over to me to make them into teachers." That has stuck with me for all these years. Experience since has shown that most of these people could not make in the real world where they actually had to compete.
I was homeschooled all throughout my elementary, middle school and high school education. To this day I’m eternally grateful to my parents for making that decision and sacrificing so much to do so. One of the things I liked about my homeschooling education was that it taught me how to teach my self and seek out knowledge and learn. This was an especially valuable skill during COVID where by the summer of 2020, I was able to synthesis the data and information I was seeing and correctly identify truths about COVID that “The experts” were telling me were wrong.
Next they will require background checks before you get married. But not required for single mothers they can manipulate,
For many months, I have been asking my good Jewish friend, why Israel was sending food water and electricity into the Gaza Strip after the people in Gaza participated in and celebrated the October 7th attack on Jews? The best I could determine from his repeated replies was something about doing the "right" thing for innocent people caught in the middle of two warring parties. Then I thought of the million plus Arab Israelis. Maybe if they see Israel try to eliminate the impact of war on the people in Gaza, they will help strengthen the Israeli State by not subscribing to the hatred of the Hamas/Iranian ideology of "death to the Jews" and America--the great Satan--stuff.
I see this in many current socioeconomic movements. For school choice, how many generations of people have been trapped in societies that refuse to provide a basic liberal education focused on providing individuals with the knowledge to pursue life in a free liberal society?
For centuries, the South did not educate their children. Why? The South was a simple agricultural export economy first based on tobacco, then cotton (thanks to the invention of the cotton gin in the 1790s that allowed the profitable production of short staple cotton throughout the South far inland from the low country of the Carolinas where long staple cotton was grown). If you educated a kid, white or black, they immigrated to the industrializing North, Midwest and West. So why spend the money when you are mostly a poor socioeconomic system.
If you look at the demographics, the South experienced a net outmigration of Whites until 1950 and Blacks until the 1980s. The South changed in 1950 because someone invented the mechanical Cotton Stripper. The South no longer needed to have a poor and unskilled agricultural labor force dedicated to picking cotton. Thus, the South went through a renaissance. However, we were still saddled with the centuries of Slavery, Jim Crow and Segregation and needed to change our socio-economic structures.
I mention this all because the public education system in the South has for far too long been considered a public works program--employing vast numbers of educators and administrators delivering a service to a population that no one really cared about (rural and inner-city blacks). Whites were able to flee to the suburbs and better educational systems. But after 70 years of integrating the South into a cohesive socioeconomic system with the industrial North and the emergence of the information society, The South recognizes the need to invest in our human resources. Many wealthy Whites and a growing strong Black Middle Class will no longer accept the mediocre performance and intransience of the public school system. So, the need for reform is evident and that reform is School Choice. Since Wealthy Whites can afford private education, they seem disinterested in reform.
School Choice will reshape the American South because we are a dynamic society seeing vast changes in our infrastructure and economic opportunities. I rent apartments and I see many people immigrate to the Atlanta Area and build much better lives. I am not worried about the South. What I am worried about is the South not being able to withstand the demands of the large grifting operations emanating out of Washington DC that are mostly propagated by the demands of the progressive Left.
I hope this election will give the Nation a chance to break some of these grifting operations and restore greater liberty to the Nation.
I am a fortunate person. I can drive to the Atlanta Airport and and take a direct flight almost anywhere in the world with a direct flight. I have been to a Masai village and to a high Andean community. I have seen many cities throughout Europe, the islands in the Carribean, the islands of the eastern Mediterranean and seen the wonders of Egypt. In all my travels I have found that people are the same. They just want to live a good life while trying to deal with the current structure of the socioeconomic conditions in the community.
School Choice gives our children and their parents a chance to break away from the structures in their community that is constricting their liberty. It will take 30 years for our poorer communities to break free of these constraints. I hope we have the patience and endurance to see it through.
Does your "good Jewish friend" still vote for Democrats?
This is brilliant writing. As a retired public school teacher, I couldn't agree more with you.
Moi, aussi! :)
We homeschooled all three of our daughters; two of whom are married now and have children of their own. Some people would ask us about their socialization and I would teach them that we didn’t want to raise them as socialists. And yes, we did teach them the truth about evolution which meant teaching them young earth creation.
Let me say this. The leftist are coming for your children your religion and even you.
Unless you’re a minority( and even then) or someone who cares about the gay agenda they are coming for you.
The threat of abuse at home is real and yes during COVID that ability to monitor it through school was hampered. BUT. Since the left has taken over education the schools have become the abusive centers of America.
Here in ga although technically illegal there is gay porn in elementary schools. Go to Decatur go to any other progressive heck holes in GA and you will find them. Call it TG picture books or whatever. But they are what they are. I would stress to say homeschooling in some areas is the only way to get a decent education.
Go into the school library and just remove the books. Take them home and burn them in your fireplace.
I used to read Scientific American decades ago. They had articles - often over my head - on weird stuff like physics, astronomy, chemistry, archaeology. Too hard these days I suppose.
Yep. Another RIGHT ON piece. That is why my granddaughter and her husband, with my great-granddaughter moved out of a crime ridden, woke school in the city where they lived, to a wonderful safe totally different school system in Wyoming. The area they lived in had, and still have, a shooting every 24 hours with someone killed. The school was totally out of it about woke.
Blessings to you and your family Erick
The government doesn't like it that people are able to escape the ghetto.... so they're working to bring the ghetto to the suburbs. HUD has been forcing low-income housing on more affluent areas since the Clinton administration.
I grew up in a school just like that. But we got good education because of the quality of the teachers. Yes we had bad gang activity and off my class 10 kids didn’t live to see Sr year. But we also had a vast number of kids who went on to places like Ivy League schools and such. Just because it’s a bad area doesn’t mean a bad school.
But this school was and it is why I said a woke school. Totally our of it.
Homeschool family here. My daughter just graduated summa cum laude from UF and is heading to University of Cambridge for her PhD in chemistry on a very nice, all-inclusive scholarship. She thanks me regularly for homeschooling her. Our school days were very laid back with tons of free time to explore things she was interested in. We got to hang out so much more as a family. We still get obnoxious comments about homeschooling, often from families whose kids are struggling so much in school and would love the opportunity to homeschool but the parents are too critical of it. For so many kids, the typical school environment is the farthest thing from a “safe space” or place to flourish personally, socially, or academically.