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I would like to see DeSantis stay in the race, if only to keep Trump honest (I know that appears to be a bridge too far). DeSantis can keep saying what he would do and has done in Florida as opposed to Trump saying what he would do - but doesn't. It will also keep the Left up at night, because if for some reason Trump has to bail out, DeSantis is their worst nightmare.
I have one. And here is the truth from a person who has had one for 9 years.
We got the leaf at a very deep discount from my husbands work and the state rebate tax. So a car for little to no cost. Sure! It became “our third car”
We are a family that hates car payment and buy reliable cars that last 15 years/250k. The leaf has been interesting and lines my
Doctor’s pocket for the anxiety meds I need to drive it.
Pros:
It doesn’t get dirty and in nine years we have only had to bring it into dealer service once for a computer reboot. No oil changes, tires last forever, and you don’t have the normal wear and tear.
it is quiet and on a level 1 charger in our
Home it costs around $40-$50 per month to charge.
That is where it ends:
We have 67k miles on it. And the battery is and will degrade. So each six months we can go less and less. Have an emergency or run errands. Nope not in the cards.
The battery is weather dependent. Cold or hot temps your battery takes a hit. So using it you have to watch a weather report and decide can you use the AC or Heater today in the car to make it to work.
When we bought it in the early 2010s Nissan and all the EV people talked how “don’t worry, batteries will become cheaper!” “Dealers will help you in ten years by giving battery changes half or cost help” “you will easily be able to upgrade your battery” my favorite “you can go to any Nissan dealership and use their level 2 chargers or fast rapid chargers.”
Today the truth:
Nissan dealerships are refusing to let you charge unless you bought from them “it cost the dealers too much money to let people charge” luckily I have a very kind dealership owner who lets me charge on my lunch break.
Battery replacement is more than the cars are now worth. And Nissan doesn’t care nor will help you unless the battery is under warranty..
Even if you have the funds……..there are no gen 1 Leaf batteries to be found. So if your battery is lucky to be under warranty Nissan will give you trade in cash. No one talks about that.
Go on Reddit for leaf and many people are having complaints about the new batteries. Many claim with the bigger batteries it is too close to other parts of the car which heats the battery and leads to faster battery degradation
Your leaf value is subject to government whims. Due to Biden’s new tax rebates we lost 60% in value of our leaf
Over night. But insurance cost more on my
Leaf than my fully loaded luxury van due to how expensive a repair would be.
Also people will tail you like crazy. I want to put “I swear I am not “one of them”” bumper sticker on.
We use the leaf for short trips and five mile rides.
Charging stations: a joke. Half time they are broke or cost $12 for two hours. I can get gas in ten minutes and it lasts me all week.
The thought is nice. I like not dealing with oil changes but the technology and supply isn’t enough and people
Are being lied to this is a car that can last you long term.
I can get gas in ten minutes and it lasts me all week...
I can go 450+ miles on the highway (over six straight hours of driving) in my Ram pickup, refuel in 10 min total getting off the highway, pump gas, back on the highway, for another 450+ miles six hours.
The use case for electric is small passenger city and suburb driving only with no load. It begs the question, why is an electric pickup truck necessary. Large electric vehicles make no sense.
It's not you, the EV driver that is the problem, it is the government. EV's are a product. Buy one, I don't care, I won't look at you funny or tailgate you. I recognize there is a financial use case (at least with government incentives) inconveniences not withstanding.
But if you drive one because you feel you are saving the planet then you are the problem because you vote accordingly. If you want to commit self flagellation go for it, try and whip me and it's on.
Owned 4 leafs since 2012. And I have not had the issue you had. Longest one was 100,00k miles. Battery only lost 2 bars. So I was still getting a guestimate range of 98.
Currently have a 2019.
I bought it used which is the best way to buy an EV. The battery had an issue took it to Nissan. They replaced the entire battery. No questions asked. I now get 170. So I basically have a new car.
I’ve driven mine in cold hot, rainy and everything in between. Never had a problem. Not once.
The only thing this they can be cost prohibiting. That’s unfortunate because they are good cars in my opinion.
Many people don’t consider the amount of usable energy contained in a hand portable five gallon can of gasoline and a battery of equivalent size and weight. The former will take a heavy vehicle 100 miles or more; the latter maybe a few blocks.
“ Women are having fewer babies despite government incentives..”
Correction. There are fewer women to have babies as well.
The one child policy caused a despairage in women to men ratio. Not sustainable.
Two quick bits:
1) Kate gets 2 weeks in the hospital? Guess she's not on the National Health Service Plan.
2) Wonder whats going to happen to all those frozen Teslas when the batteries finally thaw out?
A DNYUZ article: https://dnyuz.com/2024/01/17/electric-car-owners-confront-a-harsh-foe-cold-weather/
Note the spokesman for Tesla - Albert Gore III
I would like to see DeSantis stay in the race, if only to keep Trump honest (I know that appears to be a bridge too far). DeSantis can keep saying what he would do and has done in Florida as opposed to Trump saying what he would do - but doesn't. It will also keep the Left up at night, because if for some reason Trump has to bail out, DeSantis is their worst nightmare.
Just heard you talk about the leaf:
I have one. And here is the truth from a person who has had one for 9 years.
We got the leaf at a very deep discount from my husbands work and the state rebate tax. So a car for little to no cost. Sure! It became “our third car”
We are a family that hates car payment and buy reliable cars that last 15 years/250k. The leaf has been interesting and lines my
Doctor’s pocket for the anxiety meds I need to drive it.
Pros:
It doesn’t get dirty and in nine years we have only had to bring it into dealer service once for a computer reboot. No oil changes, tires last forever, and you don’t have the normal wear and tear.
it is quiet and on a level 1 charger in our
Home it costs around $40-$50 per month to charge.
That is where it ends:
We have 67k miles on it. And the battery is and will degrade. So each six months we can go less and less. Have an emergency or run errands. Nope not in the cards.
The battery is weather dependent. Cold or hot temps your battery takes a hit. So using it you have to watch a weather report and decide can you use the AC or Heater today in the car to make it to work.
When we bought it in the early 2010s Nissan and all the EV people talked how “don’t worry, batteries will become cheaper!” “Dealers will help you in ten years by giving battery changes half or cost help” “you will easily be able to upgrade your battery” my favorite “you can go to any Nissan dealership and use their level 2 chargers or fast rapid chargers.”
Today the truth:
Nissan dealerships are refusing to let you charge unless you bought from them “it cost the dealers too much money to let people charge” luckily I have a very kind dealership owner who lets me charge on my lunch break.
Battery replacement is more than the cars are now worth. And Nissan doesn’t care nor will help you unless the battery is under warranty..
Even if you have the funds……..there are no gen 1 Leaf batteries to be found. So if your battery is lucky to be under warranty Nissan will give you trade in cash. No one talks about that.
Go on Reddit for leaf and many people are having complaints about the new batteries. Many claim with the bigger batteries it is too close to other parts of the car which heats the battery and leads to faster battery degradation
Your leaf value is subject to government whims. Due to Biden’s new tax rebates we lost 60% in value of our leaf
Over night. But insurance cost more on my
Leaf than my fully loaded luxury van due to how expensive a repair would be.
Also people will tail you like crazy. I want to put “I swear I am not “one of them”” bumper sticker on.
We use the leaf for short trips and five mile rides.
Charging stations: a joke. Half time they are broke or cost $12 for two hours. I can get gas in ten minutes and it lasts me all week.
The thought is nice. I like not dealing with oil changes but the technology and supply isn’t enough and people
Are being lied to this is a car that can last you long term.
I can get gas in ten minutes and it lasts me all week...
I can go 450+ miles on the highway (over six straight hours of driving) in my Ram pickup, refuel in 10 min total getting off the highway, pump gas, back on the highway, for another 450+ miles six hours.
The use case for electric is small passenger city and suburb driving only with no load. It begs the question, why is an electric pickup truck necessary. Large electric vehicles make no sense.
It's not you, the EV driver that is the problem, it is the government. EV's are a product. Buy one, I don't care, I won't look at you funny or tailgate you. I recognize there is a financial use case (at least with government incentives) inconveniences not withstanding.
But if you drive one because you feel you are saving the planet then you are the problem because you vote accordingly. If you want to commit self flagellation go for it, try and whip me and it's on.
Owned 4 leafs since 2012. And I have not had the issue you had. Longest one was 100,00k miles. Battery only lost 2 bars. So I was still getting a guestimate range of 98.
Currently have a 2019.
I bought it used which is the best way to buy an EV. The battery had an issue took it to Nissan. They replaced the entire battery. No questions asked. I now get 170. So I basically have a new car.
I’ve driven mine in cold hot, rainy and everything in between. Never had a problem. Not once.
The only thing this they can be cost prohibiting. That’s unfortunate because they are good cars in my opinion.
Many people don’t consider the amount of usable energy contained in a hand portable five gallon can of gasoline and a battery of equivalent size and weight. The former will take a heavy vehicle 100 miles or more; the latter maybe a few blocks.
...and the latter only on a warm day.
Let's hope King Charles doesn't get Austin'd.