Vandalii, I agree with you. I don't know of one Conservative who has advocated for the dissolution of the Electoral College. I take a lot of Conservative news and I have not heard this one.
I wish. Organizing conservatives is like herding cats. We seem to bounce from issue to issue; in many cases, we raise enough hell to get a win, then move on without guaranteeing things STAY resolved.
Let's see now. If I get what you are saying is that we are powerless against the Woke Corporations unless we somehow unite to fight them when stupid decisions such as were just made over the MLB All Star game move. In other words we can't do a damn thing without a leader and an organization to back our "leader". I just switched to Diet Pepsi and put Delta on my "no fly" list and if I ever needed an excuse to stop watching MLB, I now have it. No leader, no organization just my personal power. What more could be done by any organization than this?
"How many otherwise sensible and sane conservatives wanted Congress to throw out the Electoral College? "
Umm, I must not be paying attention or something. The Conservatives have always understood that "popular vote" = "mob rule" and that our Founders set up the Electoral College for states to control their own Federal influence. Even when we do not get our way, our concern is about rule of law, not rule of majority.
Which conservatives are daft enough to move toward popular vote with the surge of Biden supporters coming up from Central and South America? Popular vote would most certainly overwhelm any conservative candidate at a national level. This doesn't make sense and I've not heard Conservatives saying this. Can someone enlighten me?
Erick - I almost hate to say this but we need someone to help take the lead in " herding the cats." And it likely should not be a politician. (I bet you see where this is going.) It is time Erick, as painful as it is, to pull as many together as possible and begin building something that the "woke" companies will begin to respect and do I dare say it...fear. For myself, I am a multi-million miler on Delta. I had consciously chosen Delta and focused my flying with them. I have carried a Delta American Express card for years, and upgraded it to Platinum a number of years ago. But this recent uninformed and woke decision by their CEO has bent my nose out of joint. I plan to shop elsewhere for my flying, and only fly Delta when I have no choice. I am a diet coke fan, and now I am an unsweet ice tea convert. I'm only one person, and I do not view it as a boycott. Instead I am choosing to spend my dollars with companies not hostile to truth. But we need someone like you..no not someone like you, we need you to help marshal a force to be reckoned with. The left assumes we as Christians will simply continue to "take it" without doing anything. Turning the other cheek does not mean being silent. It is time for us to stand up, and if they decide to kill us,. well the Lord will give us the words to say to bear witness against what they are doing. Will you help us individual people to come together? I fear people that without leadership we as individuals will be like fleas biting at the hind quarter of a monster...irritating but without much influence. It is time for them to step on a bear trap, and get their attention. Perhaps it will make a difference. We will see. Charles
Boycotts are just shooting your self in the foot. Many thousands of Georgians are employed by large corporations like Coke and Delta. The next election is two years away. Look at how much Biden and the rest of his gang has done to our republic in a just few short months. A convention of states to fight back against the federal goverment that is now attacking the sovereign states to put in term limits ECT that need to be changed in our constitution. Donald Trump is still crying about the election being stolen. Weather or not it was stolen is now a moot point. He needs to leave the stage. That charge caused many conservative / Trump voters to not turnout for the Ga. senatorial run off that has given us what we have now. These are the cards we have been dealt. Ga Was a blue state but remember how it was changed to red. By voting. Dan Purdy
I suspect that Jack Dorsey, CEO of Twitter, wishes deep down now that he didn't have so many woke SJWs working for him. Same with some of the other big tech oligarchs. Pissing off half your customer base is never a good business plan and all these guys know it. Andrew Jassey replaced Jeff Bezos as CEO of Amazon right after Amazon told Parler to take a hike. I suspect there is a connection there and that the board of directors got a little nervous about the long term ramifications of the decision that either Bezos or one of his minions made. In the end the CEO is responsible for everyone in his company including some woke SJW who makes a decision that affects the bottom line. All those Georgians need to complain that decisions like the MLB one put their jobs in jeopardy regardless of who was ultimately responsible for it.
I know like you, many of us feel as if we don't have any power in the current moment in which we live. However the exact opposite is true. Trump while a great fighter, and who had largely the right message was never the right messenger simply because he was never disciplined or even principled. That doesn't discredit the great things he did for all of us as Americans. But we can't afford right now and look back, or wait for a possible Trump 2024 return. Right now this is our fight to take up! I wrote MLB Commissioner Manfred a letter this week as my own personal response and voice against his caving to the left. I have no illusions that my individual letter will sway the Commissioner one bit. But just like the Doolittle raid over Tokyo was a tiny pin prick compared to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. My letter at least sends a response that at least one citizen of Cobb County Georgia is willing to stand up. I don't need Donald Trump to fight for me. I yield that power for myself. And if we all took that mindset into this fight while at the same time following Erick's advice in this post. Then, who can stop us? For me, I'm getting off the sidelines and will become more active. If you consider writing the Commissioner, be respectful but pointed. Here is the address. The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
The left has got so much money behind it and their marauding mobs are paid by the likes of George Soros ( why is he not in jail for inciting riots? ). We on the right only have our feet to vote with ...no more professional sports, no more flying Delta, no more Coke buying ( and I am a Cokeaholic! ). Losing money is the only thing they will understand. I suggest a letter writing campaign to go with the boycott....I've sent my letters and will stay home in protest.
The wonderful thing about a million or so people deciding on their own to stop doing business with the likes of Delta and Coke is that the loss of sales immediately gets translated to the bottom line in a larger than life way. This is because the top few percent of sales for any product contribute the greatest share of profits. The reason is simple: The additional cost to make the the product whose sales are now lost is the incremental cost of the "raw materials". In Delta's case the additional cost is a few gallons of jet fuel. In Coke's case an aluminum can, some water, flavoring, a little syrup and a bit of cardboard. So those final sales are almost all profit - what is known as incremental profits. CEOs know this and that is why they fear boycotts - even small ones. CEO tenure is greatly shortened by drops in profits.
Agreed. The conservative movement was at its strongest when it stood for something and wasn’t just a grievance party looking for someone to “fight back.”
No, no, no, no. If organizing Republicans has become like herding cats, then congratulations, you have become Democrats!
Right now, both the left and the right have split into two main wings, so that we have four factions: the nutso Trump loyalists, the conservatives (whether or not they voted for Trump), the liberals and the nutso progressives. Me, I'm somewhat between the conservatives and the liberals, though I still lean more to the left (that could change, if there were a reason, but right now, there is none).
Progressives are ascendant right now, because they are the equal and opposite reaction to the Trumpists. Biden is a natural moderate, but nobody gets elected without owing something. And since the Republicans in Congress have returned to the obstructionism of the Obama years, what is Biden supposed to do? He's gotten no cover from Republicans that would enable him to keep the progressives in check.
You all denied and ridiculed his call for unity, falsely claiming that unity meant rubber-stamping policies. Unity means getting back to what has held us together as Americans, no matter our differences. We all have to live together and it will never work if we cannot compromise with each other in a way that we can both live with the result. And don't throw it back at me that it is the progressives that are causing the problem, because you know it comes from both sides.
Voter suppression, especially black voter suppression, is a real thing. In recent years, even before Trump, Republicans have not even tried to hide it. Trump's racism is a real thing (though it does not follow that all Trump voters are racists.) Trump's efforts to overturn the election and nullify black votes (along with many others) is a real thing. So, even though the Georgia law is actually a bi-partisan mostly-reasonable law, there is no trust there. Zero. Zilch. Nada. So what if the progressives are over-stating their case, it's what radicals do. It's their turn, and their charges are believable, even if not actually accurate.
Republicans are reaping what they sowed. McConnell could have worked with Biden, but he chose not to. Because the Republicans cannot own up to what they did after the election, the filibuster is going to go away, at least for civil rights voting legislation. And they have only themselves to blame.
It was so easy for Trump to own the Democrats. And now it is so easy for the progressives to own the Republicans. Except, unlike Trump, they actually believe in what they are doing.
Please, stop focusing on how evil the left is and get yourselves in order! Trump effectively destroyed everything about the Republican party that even resembled conservatism. If conservatives were to start a new political party, they should call themselves the Phoenix.
What is lacking among conservatives, as best I can tell, is a clear-ish understanding of what it means to be conservative.
I’m not picking on Don Watson here, but it is not simply a belief in God and the documents our Founding Fathers. It is deeper than that.
At the risk of being pompous, I will offer up that one such tenant of conservatism is that human nature cannot be perfected. The modern project attempted to do this, but it failed. Modernity ushered in a great deal of human freedom, but it brought with it a great deal of human misery.
Progressives (not all Democrats can be labeled as progressive) are trying to do away with human misery as a political project...because they think everything—including misery—is solvable though political action.
A correct understanding of human nature admits that first world human misery is more internal (how do I handle my freedom?) than it is about basic human needs.
Commenting on a different topic......Erick, thank you for calling out and refuting Raphael (sp?) Warnock’s blasphemous tweet (on Easter no less) that “Christians or non Christians can save themselves”. Warnock IMO has the spirit of the antichrist and is pure evil and dangerous as a person and especially as a sitting US Senator! (What were the voters in Georgia thinking?? Staying at home because they believed Trump that their votes would be stolen was just plain stupid on their part! Are Georgia voters that clueless????)
Anyway thank you for standing up for our true Christian faith against Warnock’s heresy ......or is that Warlock’s heresy?????
Thank you....and exactly .....did they not realize that by staying home would ensure Warnock’s election? Voting makes the “fraudsters” have to work and maybe they are successful and maybe not. Not voting hands the election to Warlock. .....clueless
As soon as the news hit, I sat down and wrote MLB an email. Explained my age, growing up playing and following the game. Taking my family to multiple games from the time they were little.
Then I spent a considerable amount of time breaking down the new law. And then I told them that I would never go to another MLB game and that I would never watch another MLB game. Suggested that some of them might consider reading the book 1984 and finished it with that I think I'll re-read it this spring, I'll have plenty of free time to do so.
Then forwarded it to the Braves. We cannot control what other's do. Only what we do. Do not wait for anyone else to tell you what to do. We have enough 'sheeple' in this country. Be responsible in how you act - but act.
Governor Kemp needs to publicly challenge Delta and MLB to point out, specifically, what they believe will “suppress” the ability of “only” Democrats to vote under the regulations. Instead of just screaming “Jim Crow 2.0”, they need to provide facts for “why” they believe that. And “Stacey Abrams said so” isn’t an acceptable answer.
"grifters" is the key word: Every single day I get email and cell messages, "You FAILED to respond . . ." Many of these are from various offshoots of Trump, but quite a few from well established conservative and Democrat groups. They act like I am obliged to support them. This is NOT how we unify
The ones that come across as mildly threatening are the most annoying. “He/she was so disappointed not to see your name on the list of donors”...is a blatant insult to my intelligence as well as subtle extortion.
Vandalii, I agree with you. I don't know of one Conservative who has advocated for the dissolution of the Electoral College. I take a lot of Conservative news and I have not heard this one.
I wish. Organizing conservatives is like herding cats. We seem to bounce from issue to issue; in many cases, we raise enough hell to get a win, then move on without guaranteeing things STAY resolved.
Let's see now. If I get what you are saying is that we are powerless against the Woke Corporations unless we somehow unite to fight them when stupid decisions such as were just made over the MLB All Star game move. In other words we can't do a damn thing without a leader and an organization to back our "leader". I just switched to Diet Pepsi and put Delta on my "no fly" list and if I ever needed an excuse to stop watching MLB, I now have it. No leader, no organization just my personal power. What more could be done by any organization than this?
"How many otherwise sensible and sane conservatives wanted Congress to throw out the Electoral College? "
Umm, I must not be paying attention or something. The Conservatives have always understood that "popular vote" = "mob rule" and that our Founders set up the Electoral College for states to control their own Federal influence. Even when we do not get our way, our concern is about rule of law, not rule of majority.
Which conservatives are daft enough to move toward popular vote with the surge of Biden supporters coming up from Central and South America? Popular vote would most certainly overwhelm any conservative candidate at a national level. This doesn't make sense and I've not heard Conservatives saying this. Can someone enlighten me?
Erick - I almost hate to say this but we need someone to help take the lead in " herding the cats." And it likely should not be a politician. (I bet you see where this is going.) It is time Erick, as painful as it is, to pull as many together as possible and begin building something that the "woke" companies will begin to respect and do I dare say it...fear. For myself, I am a multi-million miler on Delta. I had consciously chosen Delta and focused my flying with them. I have carried a Delta American Express card for years, and upgraded it to Platinum a number of years ago. But this recent uninformed and woke decision by their CEO has bent my nose out of joint. I plan to shop elsewhere for my flying, and only fly Delta when I have no choice. I am a diet coke fan, and now I am an unsweet ice tea convert. I'm only one person, and I do not view it as a boycott. Instead I am choosing to spend my dollars with companies not hostile to truth. But we need someone like you..no not someone like you, we need you to help marshal a force to be reckoned with. The left assumes we as Christians will simply continue to "take it" without doing anything. Turning the other cheek does not mean being silent. It is time for us to stand up, and if they decide to kill us,. well the Lord will give us the words to say to bear witness against what they are doing. Will you help us individual people to come together? I fear people that without leadership we as individuals will be like fleas biting at the hind quarter of a monster...irritating but without much influence. It is time for them to step on a bear trap, and get their attention. Perhaps it will make a difference. We will see. Charles
Boycotts are just shooting your self in the foot. Many thousands of Georgians are employed by large corporations like Coke and Delta. The next election is two years away. Look at how much Biden and the rest of his gang has done to our republic in a just few short months. A convention of states to fight back against the federal goverment that is now attacking the sovereign states to put in term limits ECT that need to be changed in our constitution. Donald Trump is still crying about the election being stolen. Weather or not it was stolen is now a moot point. He needs to leave the stage. That charge caused many conservative / Trump voters to not turnout for the Ga. senatorial run off that has given us what we have now. These are the cards we have been dealt. Ga Was a blue state but remember how it was changed to red. By voting. Dan Purdy
I suspect that Jack Dorsey, CEO of Twitter, wishes deep down now that he didn't have so many woke SJWs working for him. Same with some of the other big tech oligarchs. Pissing off half your customer base is never a good business plan and all these guys know it. Andrew Jassey replaced Jeff Bezos as CEO of Amazon right after Amazon told Parler to take a hike. I suspect there is a connection there and that the board of directors got a little nervous about the long term ramifications of the decision that either Bezos or one of his minions made. In the end the CEO is responsible for everyone in his company including some woke SJW who makes a decision that affects the bottom line. All those Georgians need to complain that decisions like the MLB one put their jobs in jeopardy regardless of who was ultimately responsible for it.
I know like you, many of us feel as if we don't have any power in the current moment in which we live. However the exact opposite is true. Trump while a great fighter, and who had largely the right message was never the right messenger simply because he was never disciplined or even principled. That doesn't discredit the great things he did for all of us as Americans. But we can't afford right now and look back, or wait for a possible Trump 2024 return. Right now this is our fight to take up! I wrote MLB Commissioner Manfred a letter this week as my own personal response and voice against his caving to the left. I have no illusions that my individual letter will sway the Commissioner one bit. But just like the Doolittle raid over Tokyo was a tiny pin prick compared to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. My letter at least sends a response that at least one citizen of Cobb County Georgia is willing to stand up. I don't need Donald Trump to fight for me. I yield that power for myself. And if we all took that mindset into this fight while at the same time following Erick's advice in this post. Then, who can stop us? For me, I'm getting off the sidelines and will become more active. If you consider writing the Commissioner, be respectful but pointed. Here is the address. The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
1271 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY, 10020
The left has got so much money behind it and their marauding mobs are paid by the likes of George Soros ( why is he not in jail for inciting riots? ). We on the right only have our feet to vote with ...no more professional sports, no more flying Delta, no more Coke buying ( and I am a Cokeaholic! ). Losing money is the only thing they will understand. I suggest a letter writing campaign to go with the boycott....I've sent my letters and will stay home in protest.
The wonderful thing about a million or so people deciding on their own to stop doing business with the likes of Delta and Coke is that the loss of sales immediately gets translated to the bottom line in a larger than life way. This is because the top few percent of sales for any product contribute the greatest share of profits. The reason is simple: The additional cost to make the the product whose sales are now lost is the incremental cost of the "raw materials". In Delta's case the additional cost is a few gallons of jet fuel. In Coke's case an aluminum can, some water, flavoring, a little syrup and a bit of cardboard. So those final sales are almost all profit - what is known as incremental profits. CEOs know this and that is why they fear boycotts - even small ones. CEO tenure is greatly shortened by drops in profits.
Agreed. The conservative movement was at its strongest when it stood for something and wasn’t just a grievance party looking for someone to “fight back.”
What conservatives are up for abolishing the Electoral College? That is a total non-starter.
No, no, no, no. If organizing Republicans has become like herding cats, then congratulations, you have become Democrats!
Right now, both the left and the right have split into two main wings, so that we have four factions: the nutso Trump loyalists, the conservatives (whether or not they voted for Trump), the liberals and the nutso progressives. Me, I'm somewhat between the conservatives and the liberals, though I still lean more to the left (that could change, if there were a reason, but right now, there is none).
Progressives are ascendant right now, because they are the equal and opposite reaction to the Trumpists. Biden is a natural moderate, but nobody gets elected without owing something. And since the Republicans in Congress have returned to the obstructionism of the Obama years, what is Biden supposed to do? He's gotten no cover from Republicans that would enable him to keep the progressives in check.
You all denied and ridiculed his call for unity, falsely claiming that unity meant rubber-stamping policies. Unity means getting back to what has held us together as Americans, no matter our differences. We all have to live together and it will never work if we cannot compromise with each other in a way that we can both live with the result. And don't throw it back at me that it is the progressives that are causing the problem, because you know it comes from both sides.
Voter suppression, especially black voter suppression, is a real thing. In recent years, even before Trump, Republicans have not even tried to hide it. Trump's racism is a real thing (though it does not follow that all Trump voters are racists.) Trump's efforts to overturn the election and nullify black votes (along with many others) is a real thing. So, even though the Georgia law is actually a bi-partisan mostly-reasonable law, there is no trust there. Zero. Zilch. Nada. So what if the progressives are over-stating their case, it's what radicals do. It's their turn, and their charges are believable, even if not actually accurate.
Republicans are reaping what they sowed. McConnell could have worked with Biden, but he chose not to. Because the Republicans cannot own up to what they did after the election, the filibuster is going to go away, at least for civil rights voting legislation. And they have only themselves to blame.
It was so easy for Trump to own the Democrats. And now it is so easy for the progressives to own the Republicans. Except, unlike Trump, they actually believe in what they are doing.
Please, stop focusing on how evil the left is and get yourselves in order! Trump effectively destroyed everything about the Republican party that even resembled conservatism. If conservatives were to start a new political party, they should call themselves the Phoenix.
What is lacking among conservatives, as best I can tell, is a clear-ish understanding of what it means to be conservative.
I’m not picking on Don Watson here, but it is not simply a belief in God and the documents our Founding Fathers. It is deeper than that.
At the risk of being pompous, I will offer up that one such tenant of conservatism is that human nature cannot be perfected. The modern project attempted to do this, but it failed. Modernity ushered in a great deal of human freedom, but it brought with it a great deal of human misery.
Progressives (not all Democrats can be labeled as progressive) are trying to do away with human misery as a political project...because they think everything—including misery—is solvable though political action.
A correct understanding of human nature admits that first world human misery is more internal (how do I handle my freedom?) than it is about basic human needs.
Commenting on a different topic......Erick, thank you for calling out and refuting Raphael (sp?) Warnock’s blasphemous tweet (on Easter no less) that “Christians or non Christians can save themselves”. Warnock IMO has the spirit of the antichrist and is pure evil and dangerous as a person and especially as a sitting US Senator! (What were the voters in Georgia thinking?? Staying at home because they believed Trump that their votes would be stolen was just plain stupid on their part! Are Georgia voters that clueless????)
Anyway thank you for standing up for our true Christian faith against Warnock’s heresy ......or is that Warlock’s heresy?????
Yes, William, yes. The GA voters who stayed home are clueless. And I am a Georgian.
Thank you....and exactly .....did they not realize that by staying home would ensure Warnock’s election? Voting makes the “fraudsters” have to work and maybe they are successful and maybe not. Not voting hands the election to Warlock. .....clueless
Yes indeed......my understanding is that he is up for re-election in 2022.
As soon as the news hit, I sat down and wrote MLB an email. Explained my age, growing up playing and following the game. Taking my family to multiple games from the time they were little.
Then I spent a considerable amount of time breaking down the new law. And then I told them that I would never go to another MLB game and that I would never watch another MLB game. Suggested that some of them might consider reading the book 1984 and finished it with that I think I'll re-read it this spring, I'll have plenty of free time to do so.
Then forwarded it to the Braves. We cannot control what other's do. Only what we do. Do not wait for anyone else to tell you what to do. We have enough 'sheeple' in this country. Be responsible in how you act - but act.
Governor Kemp needs to publicly challenge Delta and MLB to point out, specifically, what they believe will “suppress” the ability of “only” Democrats to vote under the regulations. Instead of just screaming “Jim Crow 2.0”, they need to provide facts for “why” they believe that. And “Stacey Abrams said so” isn’t an acceptable answer.
"grifters" is the key word: Every single day I get email and cell messages, "You FAILED to respond . . ." Many of these are from various offshoots of Trump, but quite a few from well established conservative and Democrat groups. They act like I am obliged to support them. This is NOT how we unify
The ones that come across as mildly threatening are the most annoying. “He/she was so disappointed not to see your name on the list of donors”...is a blatant insult to my intelligence as well as subtle extortion.