Y’all, I am really not trying to be flippant or dismissive here. And I don’t want to stay on this subject as I, like you, and tired of it. But I can’t get an answer to the question. I asked the question on Instagram. Taking all your arguments as legitimate that 2020 was stolen when Donald Trump headed the federal government and his pick at Homeland Security authorized the drop boxes, his pick at the DOJ did nothing to stop the steal, and his pick at the FBI did nothing to stop the steal and Republicans were in charge of Arizona and Georgia and had better positions in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, how is he not going to have 2024 stolen when Biden is now in charge, Christopher Wray is still at the FBI, Biden now controls the DOJ and Homeland Security, Brad Raffensperger and Brian Kemp are still in Georgia with axes to grind now, and Democrats now really control Michigan and Arizona with improved positions in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?
What if Trump is the Republican nominee, how will you justify and help win in 2024? The FBI, Main Stream Media, and radical democrats are being exposed for their roll in the 2020 election, so how can you say he cannot win. If Desantis or anyone else is nominated will the democrats not also just kill them with false accusations and anything else they choose to do to defeat them. Who can withstand their onslought of violence better, Trump, Desantis or other republicans. So, I don't necessarily favor Trump, but can see that he may be the only candidate that can survive the democrats vicious attacks. It seems you have no room for Trump, as do the No-Trumpers. We need all to pull together no matter who our nominee is. We cannot afford another 4 years of Biden and the far left democrats.
Would you believe 81 million people voted for an inarticulate man who rarely came out of his basement, and when he did, whose gaffes required no less of damage control than they do to this day? Not only that, but would you believe 81 million people voted for anyone whose legacy is as haphazard and lackluster as a man named Joe Biden? Would you believe that 81 million people voted for a sea change to a successful economy, record low unemployment, energy independence, with world peace within grasp?
I have always been a proponent of where there's smoke, there's fire. I have also been a proponent of looking at all the pieces of the puzzle, even if that means I have to step back from what I desperately wish the outcome to be.
I would like to believe in the integrity of our elections. There's too much money and power involved for that to be the case. I would like to believe that justice is blind. After all we have seen over the past twenty years, one would have to be naïve indeed to believe that is the case. I would like to believe that our elected officials are the only ones who have the control to make policy in our stead. I would also like to believe those at the alphabet agencies would have taken the same oath of office as our military personnel and our elected officials. I would like to believe a man is as good as his word.
I would like to. Trust but verify leads me to believe otherwise. And so I have doubts outside what obtainable facts may prove in favor of one side of the argument over the other. Was our election stolen? Likely - and they likely have been for some time. Would you have me go on record stating, without guile, that I believed all is well in our processes? To do so would deny everything we can detect in today's political dumpster fire, day in and day out. So dig into it. And question every result you dig up until you arrive at the truth. And when you find the truth, build a relationship with it, that you will not be lied to again.
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14 : 6
I don’t think 2020 was outright stolen at the ballot box but i do believe it was influenced deceptively by the mainstream media and their social media buddies. Over the last several years, I’ve completely lost faith in the American political system. I liked Trump’s policies and voted for him both times but now I wish he would back away gracefully.
Unfortunately, any candidate that has an "America First" platform or is considered "nationalist" will have the same "Deep State", media, democrat (and establishment republican), big money machine try to destroy the candidate and subsequent presidency if won. I have now realized that everything that was done to Trump was not because of his personality etc. It was due to his America First agenda. There are extremely powerful political, corporate, and donor class interests both domestically and politically that want to make the US part of a global "new world order" instead of having our own sovereignty and control of US interests. The push for "climate change" initiatives and an open border is all part of this effort. If someone had said this 8 years ago, I would have called them an idiot Qanon conspiracy freak. But the events over the past 7 years actually confirm it.
YES, GOP is insane if they think this time around with Trump will be any different especially as more folks are leaning Independant fed up with all of them and a lot of previous Trump voters like me don't want him again either. If the folks stay home (again) because the choices are so bad or fear fixed elections yes we lose, again. We GOP voters are equally insane as we keep voting for the same people that then can't get anything done or work together. We need viable choices and there are now some who younger and with way less baggage President Trump. He did his part now time for him to step away. To get EVERY conservative vote you have to put forth someone who they will all vote for.
"DOJ did nothing to stop the steal, and his pick at the FBI did nothing to stop the steal and Republicans were in charge of Arizona and Georgia and had better positions in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, how is he not going to have 2024 stolen when Biden is now in charge, Christopher Wray is still there". I believe the argument in AZ is ongoing, and Pa, Mi, Wi, are still troubling and worrisome. As far as Ga., Fulton, Dekalb, Gwinnett, Cobb, Douglas, Clayton, Henry, counties are not controlled by Repubs directly. I guess you make said connection by Sec State being a Repub?? When the people were told to leave Fulton county vote counting that night, due to a water leak (a small pipe leak was later reported) and seems counting resumed. The 2020 COVID shut down (manufactured by Dems and don't give a whether one agrees or not) opened the door wide open for absentee, drop boxes', etc. With the economy going as it was in and up until early 2020 the Dems knew darn well they could not defeat DT. To this day I do not believe that most of the Ga absentee military votes were for Biden. Time will prove and tell the tale as to who and who attends the Big Crow eating Buffett. The lightweight white wash report Garland has allowed Durham to report ( it was originally said Durham would go straight down the line guy) to public and totally now being disregarded by MSM etc. is disgusting. I will say that I believe an Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, CIA, FBI, NIS, NSA, coup attempt was headed up nthe day DT became the Repub Candidate, and continues to this day. Sit your ass back and pursues what DT has encountered and endured and 24/7 since 2015. Give some thought and credence as to what your reactions would have been give the crud and venom attacks DT has endured. That is criminal in itself. Nadler, Schiff, Congressional et als, stood in the Well of the House and waived and declared they had the evidence of Russia collusion on DT and they knew they were spewing abject lies. Dem Senators elucidated same garbage. DT was/is no more amoral than JFK and MLK, JR. If you want to know what Jackie Kennedy thought about MLK, Jr. review the tapes, etc. that daughter Caroline released a few years back post death of Jackie. I would say my opinion of MLK, Jr was parallel to hers. Barring any big health issues, DT will run and win in 2024 to the chagrin of all the Dems, RINOs, and other DT haters. Selah
" how is 2024 not going to be stolen with Biden and the Democrats in charge?"
Exactly.
"why even bother putting Trump up in 2024 if it is just going to be stolen again? Why not give someone else a try?"
Because the same thing will happen to anyone else unless it is fixed or the republicans get in on the game of ballot harvesting and mail in ballots.
Florida all but banned Mail in ballots. It is actually impossible to get a MIB in FL. What happened there? A red wave.
GA didn't do anything about Mail in Ballots. They simply gave a show piece do nothing legislation that did nothing to curb the ballot stuffing efforts.
I witnessed someone walk into a library wearing a Rafael Warnock shirt, walk up to the drop box while I was standing in a 2.5 hr line to vote and drop 10 ballots into the drop box. That is not illegal and it should be. If you can't get off your duff, get to the ballot box and drop it in the drop box on your own. Then don't vote.
But that's not going to change is it? So republicans need to do the same thing. The rules of the game have changed and we need to change with them.
But many will go on believing that 2020 and 2022 was perfectly legit or that Trump is the sole reason for the losses. Naive and idiotic as that is.
Trump was the reason in as much as they hated so much they would & did anything to stop him, and yes who ever runs will have major obsticles also but it takes that extreme derangement syndrome for so many to the act illegally and Pres Trump is the catalyst. Yes we need to better police voting procedures in many states they need to be secure - fight for that.
To your last question, the answer is a definite yes, the GOP is insane. However, I don’t perceive Trump as electable and actually has a hinderance to the party’s performance at all levels in 2024. I have held my nose to vote for him before and will do it again, should he somehow become the nominee, but I am sick and tired of voting for people I don’t want in office.
Not adjusting to pursue early votes and absentee ballots isn't being taken, it's just plain stupid. It's like Trump pledging to not "touch" entitlements. What year does he think this is -- 1956? I have a lot against him for his behavior and lack of character, but his opinions now are beyond obnoxiousness and hubris -- they suggest senility.
If 2020 was stolen from Trump, 2024 will be stolen from the GOP whoever its candidate. They didn't steal 2020 BECAUSE of Trump. They stole it because that's what they do.
Love you Erick. You know that, but if KY Gov primary is any indication, DeSantis doesn’t seem to have “the juice”. Second place finish, maybe. But third? I think it’s time to get behind Trump and sell it straight to the non-Trumpers. Love him or hate him, we need a total disrupter to set DC straight. I really like DeSantis. It’s not his time.
Joe, how do you overcome Trump’s negatives? MSM watchers have been water-boarded to hate all things Trump. At the CNN townhall, his knee-jerk need to maim came out when he called the host “nasty”. He hasn’t learned to use truth as the best snappy comment, sort of like Senator Josh Hawley does. I sense he is impervious to change. We can’t lose in ‘24, and I really respect your opinion as well as Erick’s. So, serious question.
That’s a great question. Outside of someone Trump really respects and trusts convincing him to tone down, the answer lies in backing and packaging. First, the GOP needs to get behind him and do their best to marginalize - in the nicest way possible - the never Trumpers. It needs to begin sooner rather than later. Second, the GOP needs to unite around the fact that we are facing an existential threat from China and those in our government that don’t have our country’s best interests at heart and that what we don’t need right now is “nice” or a “negotiator” or “someone that will unite the country”. Look at Biden. The uniter is the biggest divider. What we need is someone that can stand up for the American way of life - freedom, free speech, capitalism, American sovereignty, etc. - and stand up to China. Nice won’t do it. Strong and fearless with an unwillingness to back down. That will galvanize the GOP. It will win more than enough indies and undecideds and even Democrats who have figured out that 2030 was rife with interference and how bad Biden is and how far the Dems have drifted. Show commercials of Kennedy. Contrast with Biden. This isn’t the Democratic Party we once knew. Tons of great themes that can put Trump in the WH in 2024.
Well, I can say this...if Trump can win the nomination I will vote for him. I care about Trump personally (his relationship with God), but politically, to me, he is a tool. The best tool coming out of the GOP nomination is whom I’ll vote for. Voting for a Democrat in ‘24 is voting for America’s demise. Desantis next to Biden? C’mon, Biden could not stand up to a high school debate student. I say let the GOP nomination decide, then full bore back the winner. If Trump is a patriot he will accept the winner and back him/her. That’s one reason why I don’t think any Republican candidate should ‘attack’ Trump. They should rather thank him, then make the case as to how, though he did great things, the GOP needs a new running back. I think Biden/Kamela is a hard sell to anyone but the most ardent leftists.
What if Trump is the Republican nominee, how will you justify and help win in 2024? The FBI, Main Stream Media, and radical democrats are being exposed for their roll in the 2020 election, so how can you say he cannot win. If Desantis or anyone else is nominated will the democrats not also just kill them with false accusations and anything else they choose to do to defeat them. Who can withstand their onslought of violence better, Trump, Desantis or other republicans. So, I don't necessarily favor Trump, but can see that he may be the only candidate that can survive the democrats vicious attacks. It seems you have no room for Trump, as do the No-Trumpers. We need all to pull together no matter who our nominee is. We cannot afford another 4 years of Biden and the far left democrats.
Would you believe 81 million people voted for an inarticulate man who rarely came out of his basement, and when he did, whose gaffes required no less of damage control than they do to this day? Not only that, but would you believe 81 million people voted for anyone whose legacy is as haphazard and lackluster as a man named Joe Biden? Would you believe that 81 million people voted for a sea change to a successful economy, record low unemployment, energy independence, with world peace within grasp?
I have always been a proponent of where there's smoke, there's fire. I have also been a proponent of looking at all the pieces of the puzzle, even if that means I have to step back from what I desperately wish the outcome to be.
I would like to believe in the integrity of our elections. There's too much money and power involved for that to be the case. I would like to believe that justice is blind. After all we have seen over the past twenty years, one would have to be naïve indeed to believe that is the case. I would like to believe that our elected officials are the only ones who have the control to make policy in our stead. I would also like to believe those at the alphabet agencies would have taken the same oath of office as our military personnel and our elected officials. I would like to believe a man is as good as his word.
I would like to. Trust but verify leads me to believe otherwise. And so I have doubts outside what obtainable facts may prove in favor of one side of the argument over the other. Was our election stolen? Likely - and they likely have been for some time. Would you have me go on record stating, without guile, that I believed all is well in our processes? To do so would deny everything we can detect in today's political dumpster fire, day in and day out. So dig into it. And question every result you dig up until you arrive at the truth. And when you find the truth, build a relationship with it, that you will not be lied to again.
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14 : 6
I don’t think 2020 was outright stolen at the ballot box but i do believe it was influenced deceptively by the mainstream media and their social media buddies. Over the last several years, I’ve completely lost faith in the American political system. I liked Trump’s policies and voted for him both times but now I wish he would back away gracefully.
Unfortunately, any candidate that has an "America First" platform or is considered "nationalist" will have the same "Deep State", media, democrat (and establishment republican), big money machine try to destroy the candidate and subsequent presidency if won. I have now realized that everything that was done to Trump was not because of his personality etc. It was due to his America First agenda. There are extremely powerful political, corporate, and donor class interests both domestically and politically that want to make the US part of a global "new world order" instead of having our own sovereignty and control of US interests. The push for "climate change" initiatives and an open border is all part of this effort. If someone had said this 8 years ago, I would have called them an idiot Qanon conspiracy freak. But the events over the past 7 years actually confirm it.
Erick now knows what really resonates with his readers/listeners
YES, GOP is insane if they think this time around with Trump will be any different especially as more folks are leaning Independant fed up with all of them and a lot of previous Trump voters like me don't want him again either. If the folks stay home (again) because the choices are so bad or fear fixed elections yes we lose, again. We GOP voters are equally insane as we keep voting for the same people that then can't get anything done or work together. We need viable choices and there are now some who younger and with way less baggage President Trump. He did his part now time for him to step away. To get EVERY conservative vote you have to put forth someone who they will all vote for.
"DOJ did nothing to stop the steal, and his pick at the FBI did nothing to stop the steal and Republicans were in charge of Arizona and Georgia and had better positions in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, how is he not going to have 2024 stolen when Biden is now in charge, Christopher Wray is still there". I believe the argument in AZ is ongoing, and Pa, Mi, Wi, are still troubling and worrisome. As far as Ga., Fulton, Dekalb, Gwinnett, Cobb, Douglas, Clayton, Henry, counties are not controlled by Repubs directly. I guess you make said connection by Sec State being a Repub?? When the people were told to leave Fulton county vote counting that night, due to a water leak (a small pipe leak was later reported) and seems counting resumed. The 2020 COVID shut down (manufactured by Dems and don't give a whether one agrees or not) opened the door wide open for absentee, drop boxes', etc. With the economy going as it was in and up until early 2020 the Dems knew darn well they could not defeat DT. To this day I do not believe that most of the Ga absentee military votes were for Biden. Time will prove and tell the tale as to who and who attends the Big Crow eating Buffett. The lightweight white wash report Garland has allowed Durham to report ( it was originally said Durham would go straight down the line guy) to public and totally now being disregarded by MSM etc. is disgusting. I will say that I believe an Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, CIA, FBI, NIS, NSA, coup attempt was headed up nthe day DT became the Repub Candidate, and continues to this day. Sit your ass back and pursues what DT has encountered and endured and 24/7 since 2015. Give some thought and credence as to what your reactions would have been give the crud and venom attacks DT has endured. That is criminal in itself. Nadler, Schiff, Congressional et als, stood in the Well of the House and waived and declared they had the evidence of Russia collusion on DT and they knew they were spewing abject lies. Dem Senators elucidated same garbage. DT was/is no more amoral than JFK and MLK, JR. If you want to know what Jackie Kennedy thought about MLK, Jr. review the tapes, etc. that daughter Caroline released a few years back post death of Jackie. I would say my opinion of MLK, Jr was parallel to hers. Barring any big health issues, DT will run and win in 2024 to the chagrin of all the Dems, RINOs, and other DT haters. Selah
Here's my answers.
" how is 2024 not going to be stolen with Biden and the Democrats in charge?"
Exactly.
"why even bother putting Trump up in 2024 if it is just going to be stolen again? Why not give someone else a try?"
Because the same thing will happen to anyone else unless it is fixed or the republicans get in on the game of ballot harvesting and mail in ballots.
Florida all but banned Mail in ballots. It is actually impossible to get a MIB in FL. What happened there? A red wave.
GA didn't do anything about Mail in Ballots. They simply gave a show piece do nothing legislation that did nothing to curb the ballot stuffing efforts.
I witnessed someone walk into a library wearing a Rafael Warnock shirt, walk up to the drop box while I was standing in a 2.5 hr line to vote and drop 10 ballots into the drop box. That is not illegal and it should be. If you can't get off your duff, get to the ballot box and drop it in the drop box on your own. Then don't vote.
But that's not going to change is it? So republicans need to do the same thing. The rules of the game have changed and we need to change with them.
But many will go on believing that 2020 and 2022 was perfectly legit or that Trump is the sole reason for the losses. Naive and idiotic as that is.
Trump was the reason in as much as they hated so much they would & did anything to stop him, and yes who ever runs will have major obsticles also but it takes that extreme derangement syndrome for so many to the act illegally and Pres Trump is the catalyst. Yes we need to better police voting procedures in many states they need to be secure - fight for that.
They certainly act like they have taken leave of their sense. They definitely don’t act like they are the adults in the room.
To your last question, the answer is a definite yes, the GOP is insane. However, I don’t perceive Trump as electable and actually has a hinderance to the party’s performance at all levels in 2024. I have held my nose to vote for him before and will do it again, should he somehow become the nominee, but I am sick and tired of voting for people I don’t want in office.
Not adjusting to pursue early votes and absentee ballots isn't being taken, it's just plain stupid. It's like Trump pledging to not "touch" entitlements. What year does he think this is -- 1956? I have a lot against him for his behavior and lack of character, but his opinions now are beyond obnoxiousness and hubris -- they suggest senility.
The election was not stolen.
Yes, the GOP is insane and as long as they put Trump up, they will suffer election losses. Trump’s time is over. It’s time to move on.
I think you are correct . Too many commercials on your show now. I no longer listen
If 2020 was stolen from Trump, 2024 will be stolen from the GOP whoever its candidate. They didn't steal 2020 BECAUSE of Trump. They stole it because that's what they do.
Love you Erick. You know that, but if KY Gov primary is any indication, DeSantis doesn’t seem to have “the juice”. Second place finish, maybe. But third? I think it’s time to get behind Trump and sell it straight to the non-Trumpers. Love him or hate him, we need a total disrupter to set DC straight. I really like DeSantis. It’s not his time.
Joe, how do you overcome Trump’s negatives? MSM watchers have been water-boarded to hate all things Trump. At the CNN townhall, his knee-jerk need to maim came out when he called the host “nasty”. He hasn’t learned to use truth as the best snappy comment, sort of like Senator Josh Hawley does. I sense he is impervious to change. We can’t lose in ‘24, and I really respect your opinion as well as Erick’s. So, serious question.
That’s a great question. Outside of someone Trump really respects and trusts convincing him to tone down, the answer lies in backing and packaging. First, the GOP needs to get behind him and do their best to marginalize - in the nicest way possible - the never Trumpers. It needs to begin sooner rather than later. Second, the GOP needs to unite around the fact that we are facing an existential threat from China and those in our government that don’t have our country’s best interests at heart and that what we don’t need right now is “nice” or a “negotiator” or “someone that will unite the country”. Look at Biden. The uniter is the biggest divider. What we need is someone that can stand up for the American way of life - freedom, free speech, capitalism, American sovereignty, etc. - and stand up to China. Nice won’t do it. Strong and fearless with an unwillingness to back down. That will galvanize the GOP. It will win more than enough indies and undecideds and even Democrats who have figured out that 2030 was rife with interference and how bad Biden is and how far the Dems have drifted. Show commercials of Kennedy. Contrast with Biden. This isn’t the Democratic Party we once knew. Tons of great themes that can put Trump in the WH in 2024.
Well, I can say this...if Trump can win the nomination I will vote for him. I care about Trump personally (his relationship with God), but politically, to me, he is a tool. The best tool coming out of the GOP nomination is whom I’ll vote for. Voting for a Democrat in ‘24 is voting for America’s demise. Desantis next to Biden? C’mon, Biden could not stand up to a high school debate student. I say let the GOP nomination decide, then full bore back the winner. If Trump is a patriot he will accept the winner and back him/her. That’s one reason why I don’t think any Republican candidate should ‘attack’ Trump. They should rather thank him, then make the case as to how, though he did great things, the GOP needs a new running back. I think Biden/Kamela is a hard sell to anyone but the most ardent leftists.