And what? You expect intellectual honesty from the side that publicly pilloried a man for thirty year-old events that even the supposed witnesses testified under oath never happened? Please. They have no intellectual honesty. The only thing they have is an agenda by any means necessary. I've given up on trying to reason with those who have no reason.
Personally, I found her Instagram post to be rather thought-provoking, and certainly nothing she should have been fired over. It might be noted, however, that Erick's first link to the news account on Carano's firing mentions other controversial statements, leading one source to say "They have been looking for a reason to fire her for two months, and today was the final straw."
Be that as it may, I take Erick's point to be that of a liberal double standard. Now as my what-about, I might offer conservative calls for a boycott of the NFL over Colin Kaepernick's antics, but that would merely be a deflection from Erick's point - deflection being the actual intent of all what-abouts. Instead, I would like to own up to there being a liberal double standard . . . and (remembering Kaepernick) a conservative double standard. The fact is that we are all hypocrites at one time or another, but this tends to be especially true when we undertake a defense of people on our side, mainly because they are on our side . . . . (Sorry for the interruption of the point I was making, but I had to remove a speck from my eye. Or might that have been a beam?)
That said, I would like to raise a more interesting point on which I would genuinely like to hear some other perspectives. Most parts of the country are governed by an employment doctrine that is rooted in conservative principles of individual liberty. Under the "employment at will" doctrine, an employer is free to fire anyone for any reason except those explicitly prohibited by law. Unless we are going to extend employment protections to the exercise of free speech, it would seem that Disney only did what it had a perfect right to do.
Echoing the answer that I gave to progressive friends who were up in arms over the blackballing of Colin Kaepernick, taking a stand generally comes at a price. T'was ever thus.
I mourn the days when it was considered bad manners (you know, when manners were a 'thing') to discuss religion or politics in public. Being a child of the 70's, I scoffed at the idea that anyone would be so rigid. Now, I understand that those 'old' folks were so much smarter than me.
The reality of social media is that social media is a lie. There are companies that make a fortune brokering social media accounts. They buy bots and comments to boost an account's visibility. There are agents that rent clothes, mansions and finagle 'product placements' staging an account's lifestyle as one that the account-owner only dreams of.
These companies and corporations that are basing decisions on the 'trend' of social media are basing their decisions on illusions. I hate to be 'that' person, but I hope it comes back to bite them in their wallets.
When we stand before God and He asks us why we spoke the way we did, did the things we did etc., I’m not going to say that I did it or said it because some rich woman I don’t know 3,000 miles away was fired by her company because of politics. This piece reads like an endorsement of radicalization as a response to what amounts to business as usual in America.
Back about 20 years ago, Americans were told (mostly by the left) that any criticism of Islam due to 9/11 would "radicalize" young American Muslims and make it easier for ISIS to recruit "home grown" terrorists. That actually made sense...if you feel that you are hated, through no fault of your own, for your religion, your race, your ethnicity, whatever...by the majority of your countrymen, then people telling you that you've been treated unjustly and promising you that "they" don't feel that way about you, are people you're going to be more likely to listen to, to want to associate with.
For the last twelve years, at least, American Christians, particularly white males, have been hit with a barrage of hate from the left. They've been called every vile name in the book, accused of crimes they've never even thought of, many of which happened prior to the birth of their grandparents, blamed for all the ills of the world since the beginning of time.
Their achievements have been discounted as "you didn't build that" and "white privilege", black Conservatives have been called "Uncle Toms", they've been dismissed as bigots believing in sky fairies, racists, "bitter clingers", "deplorables", and told non-stop that they have no place in the future of the country unless they "conform" and "apologize"...and even that is often not enough to placate the leftist mobs.
So...is it any wonder that some of them have become radicalized? I'm not in the least excusing what happened at the Capitol, but whether you believe Donald Trump incited them or not, he isn't responsible for their radicalization, the left is.
I reject the premise on the face of it, and I get to because I am everyone's boogeyman, the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Male, Straight. I am NOT "radicalized". Calling us that, claiming that, or in any way validating that opinion just falls into their trap. That trap is to create a class of people in America that it is okay to hate, or blame for the ills. If you are Conservative, GOP, Right-wing, or moderate Republican AND you agree there is such a thing as "radicalized white men" you've just given the Left what they are after, the Other everyone can blame for things. Even if you add, "but it isn't their fault" they are still the Other that can be blamed.
I am not to blame for the situation America is in. The Left is.
But, if you let them get away with this "radicalization" crap, then I will be tattooed with the label "White Supremacist" and pursued by the Left as evil, vile, and hateful. Nothing I say will be allowed in the public square because of it.
No. White men have not been radicalized. The Propagandistas of the Main Stream press are to blame, but once again they are shoving that responsibility onto someone else.
No, you haven’t been radicalized. The overwhelming majority of white men are nowhere near “radicalized”. Nor did I intend to imply that, and if I did, I apologize.
But some, very few, but some...definitely are.
And, just as recognizing and acknowledging that “some”, not all, Muslims are violent terrorists, that “some”, not all, young black males are vicious thugs, that “some”, not all, “feminists” are man hating out of control viragos, we need to accept that erecting a gallows on the Capitol lawn and yelling “Hang Mike Pence” is not the action of sane and reasonable people...it’s the action of radicalized terrorists.
These people are pitifully trying to be relevant and think the rest of us care. I don’t even know who these two actors-cum-thought-leaders are. We watched Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles the other night prominently featuring the N word in nearly every frame. I think the folks governing cancel culture haven’t gotten that far back in the archives yet. They’re too blinded by the present day transgressions.
If you do not remember Monty Python’s bit about a man wanting to be called Loretta and have the right to have babies, I will try to link it below.
The skit ends with one character saying that he only has the right to not accept reality. Or something to that effect.
Cancel culture is trying to create their own reality. This, as I see it, is the goal of the hyper-modern project. Actual reality must be constructed first. It must be canceled.
Obviously this will not be work in the long run. In the meantime, though, they sure can damage our children and other people who are not willing to accept human nature as being naturally flawed. We can be better (and should try to be!), but we cannot change ourselves via our natural actions or will.
To be fair, many on the right are unwilling to accept reality either. Broadly speaking, I see their refusal as reactionary and not attempting to cause change or deconstruct anything, though.
Yes, there is a divide in this country and I'll will agree that the right has it's fair share of this as well. But what is so concerning about the left is that it truly is their religion. They will cut/slash anyone or anything that remotely disagrees with them. It is a kill or be killed mentality. The anger in America is real. But left seems to think that this is an exclusive right of their like minded folks, save the hardened trumpeters crowd. But there is another group that they do not account for. That's the independents and conservatives who have had it with both sides, and particularly with the Pelosi, Schumer crowd.
The arrogance that comes out of Hollywood is almost as scary as the arrogance that comes out of Capitol Hill. Keep it up Disney and you'll find yourself with a substantial amount of your audience and many-many of those in fly-over country electing to do something else with their vacation besides spending thousands per family at your parks.
Don't you think this describes the whole paradigm of the radical mind? This is the media equivalent to "Here, hold my beer!" Sadly, the "further radicalization" is highly likely....
And what? You expect intellectual honesty from the side that publicly pilloried a man for thirty year-old events that even the supposed witnesses testified under oath never happened? Please. They have no intellectual honesty. The only thing they have is an agenda by any means necessary. I've given up on trying to reason with those who have no reason.
Personally, I found her Instagram post to be rather thought-provoking, and certainly nothing she should have been fired over. It might be noted, however, that Erick's first link to the news account on Carano's firing mentions other controversial statements, leading one source to say "They have been looking for a reason to fire her for two months, and today was the final straw."
Be that as it may, I take Erick's point to be that of a liberal double standard. Now as my what-about, I might offer conservative calls for a boycott of the NFL over Colin Kaepernick's antics, but that would merely be a deflection from Erick's point - deflection being the actual intent of all what-abouts. Instead, I would like to own up to there being a liberal double standard . . . and (remembering Kaepernick) a conservative double standard. The fact is that we are all hypocrites at one time or another, but this tends to be especially true when we undertake a defense of people on our side, mainly because they are on our side . . . . (Sorry for the interruption of the point I was making, but I had to remove a speck from my eye. Or might that have been a beam?)
That said, I would like to raise a more interesting point on which I would genuinely like to hear some other perspectives. Most parts of the country are governed by an employment doctrine that is rooted in conservative principles of individual liberty. Under the "employment at will" doctrine, an employer is free to fire anyone for any reason except those explicitly prohibited by law. Unless we are going to extend employment protections to the exercise of free speech, it would seem that Disney only did what it had a perfect right to do.
Echoing the answer that I gave to progressive friends who were up in arms over the blackballing of Colin Kaepernick, taking a stand generally comes at a price. T'was ever thus.
Here in Cancellation Nation,
There’s not much that we can’t ban.
Some thoughts need a thorough "cleansing"…
(Wink, wink)….”Hope you understand..."
We’ve got names that need erasing…
Monuments to be defaced
We’ve got street signs to get rid of
To insure our “safer place”.
We need systematic shaming,
For things done quite long ago.
We must throw more "Guilty!" parties
So The Revolution grows.
We need more words redefined, sir,
So they fit into our scheme.
Legal drugs for recreation
So more folks can dream our dream.
We need more church regulation
To make sure they’re “State-Approved”
We need fewer Ten Commandments.
All of them shalt be removed.
I mourn the days when it was considered bad manners (you know, when manners were a 'thing') to discuss religion or politics in public. Being a child of the 70's, I scoffed at the idea that anyone would be so rigid. Now, I understand that those 'old' folks were so much smarter than me.
The reality of social media is that social media is a lie. There are companies that make a fortune brokering social media accounts. They buy bots and comments to boost an account's visibility. There are agents that rent clothes, mansions and finagle 'product placements' staging an account's lifestyle as one that the account-owner only dreams of.
These companies and corporations that are basing decisions on the 'trend' of social media are basing their decisions on illusions. I hate to be 'that' person, but I hope it comes back to bite them in their wallets.
You forgot the part where we, as conservatives, believe that private companies can hire, or not hire, anyone they want.
When we stand before God and He asks us why we spoke the way we did, did the things we did etc., I’m not going to say that I did it or said it because some rich woman I don’t know 3,000 miles away was fired by her company because of politics. This piece reads like an endorsement of radicalization as a response to what amounts to business as usual in America.
Back about 20 years ago, Americans were told (mostly by the left) that any criticism of Islam due to 9/11 would "radicalize" young American Muslims and make it easier for ISIS to recruit "home grown" terrorists. That actually made sense...if you feel that you are hated, through no fault of your own, for your religion, your race, your ethnicity, whatever...by the majority of your countrymen, then people telling you that you've been treated unjustly and promising you that "they" don't feel that way about you, are people you're going to be more likely to listen to, to want to associate with.
For the last twelve years, at least, American Christians, particularly white males, have been hit with a barrage of hate from the left. They've been called every vile name in the book, accused of crimes they've never even thought of, many of which happened prior to the birth of their grandparents, blamed for all the ills of the world since the beginning of time.
Their achievements have been discounted as "you didn't build that" and "white privilege", black Conservatives have been called "Uncle Toms", they've been dismissed as bigots believing in sky fairies, racists, "bitter clingers", "deplorables", and told non-stop that they have no place in the future of the country unless they "conform" and "apologize"...and even that is often not enough to placate the leftist mobs.
So...is it any wonder that some of them have become radicalized? I'm not in the least excusing what happened at the Capitol, but whether you believe Donald Trump incited them or not, he isn't responsible for their radicalization, the left is.
I reject the premise on the face of it, and I get to because I am everyone's boogeyman, the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Male, Straight. I am NOT "radicalized". Calling us that, claiming that, or in any way validating that opinion just falls into their trap. That trap is to create a class of people in America that it is okay to hate, or blame for the ills. If you are Conservative, GOP, Right-wing, or moderate Republican AND you agree there is such a thing as "radicalized white men" you've just given the Left what they are after, the Other everyone can blame for things. Even if you add, "but it isn't their fault" they are still the Other that can be blamed.
I am not to blame for the situation America is in. The Left is.
But, if you let them get away with this "radicalization" crap, then I will be tattooed with the label "White Supremacist" and pursued by the Left as evil, vile, and hateful. Nothing I say will be allowed in the public square because of it.
No. White men have not been radicalized. The Propagandistas of the Main Stream press are to blame, but once again they are shoving that responsibility onto someone else.
No, you haven’t been radicalized. The overwhelming majority of white men are nowhere near “radicalized”. Nor did I intend to imply that, and if I did, I apologize.
But some, very few, but some...definitely are.
And, just as recognizing and acknowledging that “some”, not all, Muslims are violent terrorists, that “some”, not all, young black males are vicious thugs, that “some”, not all, “feminists” are man hating out of control viragos, we need to accept that erecting a gallows on the Capitol lawn and yelling “Hang Mike Pence” is not the action of sane and reasonable people...it’s the action of radicalized terrorists.
🏆This is by far the best analysis of the current situation on this comment thread.
These people are pitifully trying to be relevant and think the rest of us care. I don’t even know who these two actors-cum-thought-leaders are. We watched Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles the other night prominently featuring the N word in nearly every frame. I think the folks governing cancel culture haven’t gotten that far back in the archives yet. They’re too blinded by the present day transgressions.
Dr. Samuel Johnson is right about Olson Johnson’s being right!
If you do not remember Monty Python’s bit about a man wanting to be called Loretta and have the right to have babies, I will try to link it below.
The skit ends with one character saying that he only has the right to not accept reality. Or something to that effect.
Cancel culture is trying to create their own reality. This, as I see it, is the goal of the hyper-modern project. Actual reality must be constructed first. It must be canceled.
Obviously this will not be work in the long run. In the meantime, though, they sure can damage our children and other people who are not willing to accept human nature as being naturally flawed. We can be better (and should try to be!), but we cannot change ourselves via our natural actions or will.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R79yYo2aOZs
To be fair, many on the right are unwilling to accept reality either. Broadly speaking, I see their refusal as reactionary and not attempting to cause change or deconstruct anything, though.
Yes, there is a divide in this country and I'll will agree that the right has it's fair share of this as well. But what is so concerning about the left is that it truly is their religion. They will cut/slash anyone or anything that remotely disagrees with them. It is a kill or be killed mentality. The anger in America is real. But left seems to think that this is an exclusive right of their like minded folks, save the hardened trumpeters crowd. But there is another group that they do not account for. That's the independents and conservatives who have had it with both sides, and particularly with the Pelosi, Schumer crowd.
The arrogance that comes out of Hollywood is almost as scary as the arrogance that comes out of Capitol Hill. Keep it up Disney and you'll find yourself with a substantial amount of your audience and many-many of those in fly-over country electing to do something else with their vacation besides spending thousands per family at your parks.
Don't you think this describes the whole paradigm of the radical mind? This is the media equivalent to "Here, hold my beer!" Sadly, the "further radicalization" is highly likely....
If it weren't for double standards, the Left would have no standards at all.