Today we have a situation where every time there's an election held, the losing side will claim it was stolen. There is no trust in the process anymore. And you can blame this squarely on Al Gore and his contesting the 2000 election the way he did.
Why would anyone want to Attorney General to drop the case if they believe Trump really is innocent? And if they don't believe he is innocent, then they should support the prosecution.
I almost always agree with you but I want to quibble with you today conflating the "left wing" 14th Amendment charge against Trump with the "right wing" yahoo attempt to block Fani Willis. They are not equivalent; I don't see the 14th Amendment charge as easily dismissed on a slippery slope fallacy - if we use it today our enemies will use it tomorrow.
First of all, I think Trump had to work pretty damn hard to give his enemies enough ammunition to set up a plausible aid and comfort to an insurrection charge. I just don't see that causing problems in the future; maybe Mad Maxine Waters could have some problems inciting riots but I see that as a feature, not a bug. Second, I don't think legal scholars that are giving support to this line of inquiry, like Luttig or Baude, are wild eyed fanatics.
I think slippery slope arguments are the most easily abused when you can't dispute the facts at hand. It's like a libertarian saying how can we allow government agents to pick up your trash at the curb? Next week they'll be on your lawn taking your patio furniture and a week after that in your house in bed with your wife...
Growing up in this state - the southern draw didn’t bother me at all - I’ve seen many an outsider underestimate that draw in my lifetime. But yes, the chainsaw ads were concerning. 😉
Watch. The people claiming Russia Collusion was real, lied. The people that impeached Trump for asking Zelensky to look into US corruption, lied. The people that told us the Covid vaccine would prevent Covid and stop the spread, lied. The people that said anyone that thought Covid was man-made in a lab is a liar, lied. And it will be shown that the people that are claiming 2020 was the safest, most secure election in history, will be proven to be liars as well. This lie needs to be foggy by the liars to the end because the truth puts the lie to everything we’ve been led to believe. You know it. They know it. The once great state of GA is heading down a path from which it may not recover for a generation.
Trump & Co. have lost 59 out of 60 court cases. Jenna Ellis admitted that she lied and has been censured. Other attorneys also face disciplinary proceedings. Fox lost the Dominion suit.
I have a “life.” Where’s your evidence? Why all the lost court cases? It doesn’t matter what drivel attorneys belch outside court houses for the cameras and reporters: what matters is what happens in court. Trump & Co. keep losing in court. Tell me again what happened with the Dominion suit?
The cases were all dismissed for either lack of standing. Truth. Evidence was never presented. And there’s plenty of it as now evidenced in MI. Do your homework. As for the Fox Dominion suit? No idea why Fox settled. They shouldn’t have. As a result, the Murdock’s are getting crushed. Well-deserved.
No. Cheaters create narratives. You lied about Russia Collusion. You tried to get people fired for not taking a shitty vaccine. It didn’t stop Covid or the spread. You called folks that said it came from a lab lairs. You said Hunter’s hard drive was Russian disinformation. You reveled impeaching a President for asking Ukraine to look into US corruption. Biden and his son are corrupt. In short, you are full of shit. We’re onto the game and we’re going to end it. Stand down, dude. Stand down!
Erick - Kudos for pushing back (with supporting details) against some of the more extreme fantasy of those in our party.
The problems that I would love (in my fantasy world where politicians and media members can deliver very hard truths) to hear you address:
(1) why so many in our party do not want Trump to face any accountability for illegally trying to block the peaceful transfer of power - If someone with A D beside their name pulled a fraction of illegal bs that the evidence shows trump pulled from the Whitehouse these same people and their favored media sources who get paid to tell them what they want to hear (as essentially all media does to some degree) would be calling for us literally bring back the guillotine on the white South Lawn
(2) how devastating it could have been for our country if Trump was successful in his various efforts to illegally end democracy from the white house - I don't think its hyperbolic to say that this could have led to a chain of events that jeopardize the safety of my family and all of yours.
Kemp did not fold when bullied before and his character will not allow him to fold this time. He’s been a strong leader even with his own party beating him up. To vilify Fani Willis for the sake of finding a way to save Trump from the swamp he created is no better than the radical progressive stunts they continue to attempt. Why do we keep stooping so low!?
This line is used by media in many different ways (counting judges, congressmen, etc), and it bothers me ... "Republican-appointed judges are able to stop them"
I would like to change it to read like this instead ... "Right thinking judges are able to stop them"
"As long as I am governor, we're going to follow the law and the Constitution, regardless of who it helps or harms politically,"
When Brian Kemp became Governor, I thought we were getting average at best. He has proven me wrong time after time after time. He did the right thing during Covid, looked at the science opened the state back up before everyone else, and caught pure Hell for it. And that includes President Trump at the time. He did the right thing when he let the election play out, looked into things legally, and let the facts come out. And now he is doing the right thing, by not trying to bend or change the laws or constitution of Georgia, because it does not go the way that many in his party or who typically vote for his party want it to go.
That is called character and leadership. Something that we badly lack at the Federal level and obviously at the state level as well, with certain people. I believe history will be kind to Governor Kemp. I guess not so much for many others.
With all of this said, do I believe that Fani Willis is doing this on merit and not for political gain? Nope. Democrats, including the White House, in a plan to not only weaken the former President's chances but also ruin him. Yes, I do.
We live in a time of political nastiness, where one side has clearly bent/changed laws to benefit their short-term goals and to support their goals and belief system. It has been shocking and disgusting to watch.
So proud of our Governor for not stooping this low and keeping his and his state's integrity, at least at the highest levels, in tact.
During Kemp's first campaign, his shotgun TV ad and his deep Southern drawl made me cringe a little. I seriously underestimated the man. Having lived in Georgia since 1997, I've never seen such character and leadership in a governor as I've been pleased to witness in Governor Kemp.
In the video, Governor Kemp is seen engaging with a supporter, during which he makes the candid remark, “If you give anybody a voting machine they can hack it.” This statement directly contradicts his past claims that electronic voting machines used in Georgia's elections were secure and immune to hacking or tampering.
Brian Kemp has repeatedly promoted machines and even purchased a whole new set of electronic voting machines in 2019 against the advice of experts and citizens. He denied election interference in the 2022 Run off elections and until now, has promoted electronic voting machines as the best method for secure elections.
GA is one of three states (the others are, I believe, AZ and SC) that mandate exclusive use of the Dominion voting system in statewide and federal elections. Other states also use Dominion's equipment in many elections, but without the legislated exclusivity found in GA. Experts from across the political spectrum have weighed in on the security and hackability of Dominion's system, with both positive and negative comments. As a resident of GA since 1998 and a registered voter, I can only comment from a user's perspective, to wit:
When one votes using a Dominion BMD touchscreen in Union County, GA, a printer generates a paper record with a barcode, which I as a voter then insert into a scanner. The barcode pruportedly contains my ballot choices in machine-readable language. However, there is no way I as a system user can verify that to be true. Until Dominion and/or states using their equipment rectify that, questions will rightfully remain as to the legitimacy of Dominion's system.
This is the same concluded, self-serving, what passes for thought in the minds of the biased and ignorant as using the 14th amendment.
Trump and his humpers are using the Left's playbook. To be sure, it's the Left's game, but Trump is willing to play it. I reject the tactic.
Today we have a situation where every time there's an election held, the losing side will claim it was stolen. There is no trust in the process anymore. And you can blame this squarely on Al Gore and his contesting the 2000 election the way he did.
Why would anyone want to Attorney General to drop the case if they believe Trump really is innocent? And if they don't believe he is innocent, then they should support the prosecution.
I wish I could use the "like" button more than once.
Spot on
I almost always agree with you but I want to quibble with you today conflating the "left wing" 14th Amendment charge against Trump with the "right wing" yahoo attempt to block Fani Willis. They are not equivalent; I don't see the 14th Amendment charge as easily dismissed on a slippery slope fallacy - if we use it today our enemies will use it tomorrow.
First of all, I think Trump had to work pretty damn hard to give his enemies enough ammunition to set up a plausible aid and comfort to an insurrection charge. I just don't see that causing problems in the future; maybe Mad Maxine Waters could have some problems inciting riots but I see that as a feature, not a bug. Second, I don't think legal scholars that are giving support to this line of inquiry, like Luttig or Baude, are wild eyed fanatics.
I think slippery slope arguments are the most easily abused when you can't dispute the facts at hand. It's like a libertarian saying how can we allow government agents to pick up your trash at the curb? Next week they'll be on your lawn taking your patio furniture and a week after that in your house in bed with your wife...
Thanks, Erick. That was an excellent explanation!
Growing up in this state - the southern draw didn’t bother me at all - I’ve seen many an outsider underestimate that draw in my lifetime. But yes, the chainsaw ads were concerning. 😉
Thanks for this rundown. I'll be passing it on to truth-loving friends.
Watch. The people claiming Russia Collusion was real, lied. The people that impeached Trump for asking Zelensky to look into US corruption, lied. The people that told us the Covid vaccine would prevent Covid and stop the spread, lied. The people that said anyone that thought Covid was man-made in a lab is a liar, lied. And it will be shown that the people that are claiming 2020 was the safest, most secure election in history, will be proven to be liars as well. This lie needs to be foggy by the liars to the end because the truth puts the lie to everything we’ve been led to believe. You know it. They know it. The once great state of GA is heading down a path from which it may not recover for a generation.
Trump & Co. have lost 59 out of 60 court cases. Jenna Ellis admitted that she lied and has been censured. Other attorneys also face disciplinary proceedings. Fox lost the Dominion suit.
You *can* leave your cult.
No such thing, pal. You all cheated in GA and everyone knows it. Get a life.
I have a “life.” Where’s your evidence? Why all the lost court cases? It doesn’t matter what drivel attorneys belch outside court houses for the cameras and reporters: what matters is what happens in court. Trump & Co. keep losing in court. Tell me again what happened with the Dominion suit?
The cases were all dismissed for either lack of standing. Truth. Evidence was never presented. And there’s plenty of it as now evidenced in MI. Do your homework. As for the Fox Dominion suit? No idea why Fox settled. They shouldn’t have. As a result, the Murdock’s are getting crushed. Well-deserved.
A “narrative” is what you have when you don’t have the truth. You have a narrative - a “story” - a myth to explain your losses.
No. Cheaters create narratives. You lied about Russia Collusion. You tried to get people fired for not taking a shitty vaccine. It didn’t stop Covid or the spread. You called folks that said it came from a lab lairs. You said Hunter’s hard drive was Russian disinformation. You reveled impeaching a President for asking Ukraine to look into US corruption. Biden and his son are corrupt. In short, you are full of shit. We’re onto the game and we’re going to end it. Stand down, dude. Stand down!
Truth is objective and it will eventually win out over postmodern relativism.
"What is truth?" That is humanity's time-tested response to your statement.
Erick - Kudos for pushing back (with supporting details) against some of the more extreme fantasy of those in our party.
The problems that I would love (in my fantasy world where politicians and media members can deliver very hard truths) to hear you address:
(1) why so many in our party do not want Trump to face any accountability for illegally trying to block the peaceful transfer of power - If someone with A D beside their name pulled a fraction of illegal bs that the evidence shows trump pulled from the Whitehouse these same people and their favored media sources who get paid to tell them what they want to hear (as essentially all media does to some degree) would be calling for us literally bring back the guillotine on the white South Lawn
(2) how devastating it could have been for our country if Trump was successful in his various efforts to illegally end democracy from the white house - I don't think its hyperbolic to say that this could have led to a chain of events that jeopardize the safety of my family and all of yours.
Anyway - great article
Kemp did not fold when bullied before and his character will not allow him to fold this time. He’s been a strong leader even with his own party beating him up. To vilify Fani Willis for the sake of finding a way to save Trump from the swamp he created is no better than the radical progressive stunts they continue to attempt. Why do we keep stooping so low!?
This line is used by media in many different ways (counting judges, congressmen, etc), and it bothers me ... "Republican-appointed judges are able to stop them"
I would like to change it to read like this instead ... "Right thinking judges are able to stop them"
"As long as I am governor, we're going to follow the law and the Constitution, regardless of who it helps or harms politically,"
When Brian Kemp became Governor, I thought we were getting average at best. He has proven me wrong time after time after time. He did the right thing during Covid, looked at the science opened the state back up before everyone else, and caught pure Hell for it. And that includes President Trump at the time. He did the right thing when he let the election play out, looked into things legally, and let the facts come out. And now he is doing the right thing, by not trying to bend or change the laws or constitution of Georgia, because it does not go the way that many in his party or who typically vote for his party want it to go.
That is called character and leadership. Something that we badly lack at the Federal level and obviously at the state level as well, with certain people. I believe history will be kind to Governor Kemp. I guess not so much for many others.
With all of this said, do I believe that Fani Willis is doing this on merit and not for political gain? Nope. Democrats, including the White House, in a plan to not only weaken the former President's chances but also ruin him. Yes, I do.
We live in a time of political nastiness, where one side has clearly bent/changed laws to benefit their short-term goals and to support their goals and belief system. It has been shocking and disgusting to watch.
So proud of our Governor for not stooping this low and keeping his and his state's integrity, at least at the highest levels, in tact.
During Kemp's first campaign, his shotgun TV ad and his deep Southern drawl made me cringe a little. I seriously underestimated the man. Having lived in Georgia since 1997, I've never seen such character and leadership in a governor as I've been pleased to witness in Governor Kemp.
Governor Kemp.
FINALLY!
In the video, Governor Kemp is seen engaging with a supporter, during which he makes the candid remark, “If you give anybody a voting machine they can hack it.” This statement directly contradicts his past claims that electronic voting machines used in Georgia's elections were secure and immune to hacking or tampering.
Brian Kemp has repeatedly promoted machines and even purchased a whole new set of electronic voting machines in 2019 against the advice of experts and citizens. He denied election interference in the 2022 Run off elections and until now, has promoted electronic voting machines as the best method for secure elections.
GA is one of three states (the others are, I believe, AZ and SC) that mandate exclusive use of the Dominion voting system in statewide and federal elections. Other states also use Dominion's equipment in many elections, but without the legislated exclusivity found in GA. Experts from across the political spectrum have weighed in on the security and hackability of Dominion's system, with both positive and negative comments. As a resident of GA since 1998 and a registered voter, I can only comment from a user's perspective, to wit:
When one votes using a Dominion BMD touchscreen in Union County, GA, a printer generates a paper record with a barcode, which I as a voter then insert into a scanner. The barcode pruportedly contains my ballot choices in machine-readable language. However, there is no way I as a system user can verify that to be true. Until Dominion and/or states using their equipment rectify that, questions will rightfully remain as to the legitimacy of Dominion's system.